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The T202 Baseball card, also known as the Hassan Triple Folder was manufactured and distributed in the year 1912. The card was inserted into packs of "Hassan Cork Tip Cigarettes".[1] Several characteristics make this vintage Baseball card a standout amongst other forms of tobacco advertising of the time and lend to its value as a highly sought after collectible. First and foremost the cards are quite large in comparison to the T205 (1911) and T206 (1909 to 1911) cards from the same time period. The T202 was designed as a triptych or as it is referred to in the baseball card collecting hobby a triple folder. Each of the end panels displayed an individual player in color, while the center panel contained a black and white photo of "live action" baseball players.[2] To insert the card into packs of cigarettes the two end panels were folded over the center panel. When the card is fully extended it measures 5 1/4" wide by 2 1/4" high.[3] The T202 set consisted of 132 total cards with numerous combinations of end panels and center panels. Prominent players of the time who appear on the most end and center panel combinations are Christy Mathewson, who appears on ten different cards all on end panels, and Ty Cobb, who appears on a combination of over six different cards including end and center panels. |
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Joe...
The picture looks more like Joe than any other player I could imagine from Cleveland. I think Brett's theory is right on... Very interesting observation and I am surprised that it has never been brought up before.... Has this been under the radar all these years ? I think it makes sense and looks just like him pending the ear lobe is not too low and the point of his nose is perpendicular to his eye brow.
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Too bad the card isn't entitled "Jackson out at third". Of course if it were, it would be selling for 4 figures.
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Apparently, someone thinks it's Joe Jax.....three of the cards have been BIN'd on ebay just this afternoon.
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I think one of the W game action cards was similarly purported to be of Cobb - they still sell as commons. Too many on the Cleveland team with similar characteristics to tell here with any certainty, though if Mark says otherwise, I reserve the right to retract my comment . Last edited by Matt; 05-21-2010 at 04:10 PM. |
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Baseball-Reference is showing that there were 38 players on Cleveland's team in 1911. So if this photo is from 1911, there is a 1 in 38 chance that it is Jackson. Personally, the photo is so hard to see I don't think you could really make a determination. But purely gut feeling tells me that Jackson looks like a baby in his T5 and that guy sliding into third has the look of a grizzled veteran to me. It also looks like th sliding player's stirrups don't continue to their foot, while both photos of Jackson show him wearing stirrups that go all the way to his feet. Although that could just be the angle.
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Let's see if this card starts showing up on ebay with the description T202 Joe Jackson. My gut says it will.
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After I analyzed the evidence, with a dual-column gas chromatograph, Hewlett-Packard model 5710a with flame analyzing detectors, I have concluded that it could be anyone on the Cleveland team in 1911, but if I were going to make an educated guess, I would say it is either Joe Jackson or Ivy Olson.
I couldn't resist using a line from one of my favorite movies r/ Frank
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Thought provoking... Though it means little, "Cobb sliding" was 1909.
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No disrespect, but on the basis of that tiny image, with cap pulled down, no one could reasonably be 99 percent sure about the identify of this player -- in my opinion.
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