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Old 04-04-2010, 10:21 PM
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Intentionally leaving out pertinent information or conveniently glossing over material facts in an auction description would be fraud. Similarly, failing to address pertinent information when an inquiry is made about an item in an auction, would be considered fraud.

There are some past and present auction house principals who post here. Maybe they can chime in? What are realistic expectations that we should hold auction houses to?
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Old 04-04-2010, 10:35 PM
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I can speak for myself on the issue of descriptions. Give big front and back scans and if a customer asks about something then you should tell them in an as honest of a way as possible. Anytime I have been asked about something I usually take a magnifier to the item and give a blow by blow account. No surprises. I also rely on third party grading to help. regards
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I agree that providing large scans and reliance on 3rd party grading is essential when it comes to cards. However, in the example of cards, should the auction house mention in the auction description any opinion should they feel a card is over graded? There are real advantages to viewing cards in person and sometimes large photos of graded cards is not enough.

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The points brought up are all important in listings, but I guess the biggest concern is the provenance, history or background to not only the individual card but also the cards background within the set it comes from. This is auction descriptions you find mainly in major auctions and that is what concerns me the most.

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Yes, I am outing an auction, but it may save someone some trouble.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...T#ht_500wt_975

I emailed the seller and he told me that he is using a stock web photo of a PSA 5 card, but the actual item for sale is a PSA 2. His description is a little vague.

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Old 04-05-2010, 05:09 AM
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I was almost tempted to bid on that Cobb. One more "s" in "Collectorsssssssssss" and I just might have done it.
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:21 AM
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I emailed the seller and asked what does "not the card shown but the same card". Shame,shame,shame
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Old 04-05-2010, 05:23 AM
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Thanks rick:d


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yes, i am outing an auction, but it may save someone some trouble.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll...t#ht_500wt_975

i emailed the seller and he told me that he is using a stock web photo of a psa 5 card, but the actual item for sale is a psa 2. His description is a little vague.

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Old 04-05-2010, 05:31 PM
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If the high bidder read the description and still bid $1,300, he can only blame himself if he gets ripped off.
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Wow Rick,

That's a good catch. That seller really IS deplorable. Worst ebay misdirection I've seen in awhile. Guess it pays to read all the fine print.

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The iPhone app used to just show the picture, the title, current bid, and a place to put in a new bid....don't know if it has been updated but I imagine that would cause problems to only have that info.

I wonder if a buyer could argue that the photo was misrepresentation through a paypal dispute. I know that in the past, to save time, I've put 4 card pictures in one scan and run four different auctions for one card each, and that a past buyer was confused and though he was getting all $1300 worth of cards for $200, even though the title was clear and the description told what back the one card had....
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