Are the autograph auth. folks absolute idiots?

[Rich Klein]

what I have gathered from the now infamous Sal Bando video.

The rep from JSA was taking a table at the same show that Bando was signing at and thus Bando was no more than a few hundred feet away. Plus; from watching the video -- I suspect the guy from JSA was a bit "set-up" by the reporter.

Should they have checked said autograph better: of course, but the logic of the show dictated that the autograph was good. I bet that a person with your skills as a lawyer could prove damages to JSA for all that

Regards
Rich


If JSA can authenticate Sal Bando's just signed autograph even though he was 3000 miles away at the time the autograph was signed, then I suspect JSA can figure out this problem as well

[barrysloate]

What happens if you try to remove the sticker? Does it take a piece of the card with it? If it does, then it ruins the item and is unacceptable. If it doesn't, what stops someone from removing the sticker on a genuine item and reattaching it to a bad one? So either way, it stinks.

[FrankWakefield]

Two events are occurring, both of which seem senseless to me.

1- JSA puts a sticker on the item. Front is worst, back is bad.

2- People submit their stuff to JSA and PAY them to put a sticker on their stuff.



I used to think the 1st one was the greater transgression, but at least JSA gets paid to do something that seems senseless to me. I now think that the 2nd is worse... here, don't merely put a sticker on my stuff to ruin it, please let me also pay you for the damage you're doing.


Will a day come when some grading company will certify slabbed cards with a sticker on the slab, certifying that the slab company got it right?

[Anthony S.]

What is the "now infamous" Sal Bando video? I think all this came down when I was taking a break from collecting (and I don't collect autographs).

Incidentally, in the early 1970's my parents were at a small dinner party, maybe 8 people, with Sal Bando and my mom showed up with a half dozen baseballs stuffed in her purse. He graciously signed them, though I suspect he may have wanted to strangle her (not an uncommon sentiment). Giants fan that I am --- he was an Oakland A at the time --- it became my "street catch" ball (the one you don't mind getting torn up by the cement and asphalt when it hits the ground).

[drc]

I don't like stickers on nice cards and prefer a sticker to be placed on the back of a photo, like most here. However, most of the flat items JSA authenticates involves something like an autograph on a 10 cent 8x10 photo, and the submiter desires a sticker on the item. The item itself has almost no value except for the presence of an authentic autograph.

I bought a bunch of really cheap cards (ala 1990 Fleer) that were autographed and had the JSA sticker on back. It was convenient to have the 'COA' on back. As already noted, I wouldn't want the sticker on a T206, but there can be grey areas for autographed cards (somewhere between T206 and Fleer).

As already noted, collectors now not only have the option to submit cards to Beckett/JSA for holdering (no sticker) but can now sumbit signed 8x10 photos for the same service. One of the advertised qualities for Beckett's big holder is that no sticker or tag has to be placed on the item.

The submitter knows what he is paying for (COA and sticker) when he submits to PSA/DNA or JSA, so much of the blame (if there is blame to be placed) should be placed on the submitter not the company. I was told by Spence when he was at PSA/DNA that they didn't put a sticker on an item when asked not to. Along the lines of some folks in this thread, he said some people said they didn't want a sticker on their Yankees team ball or whatever and PSA/DNA honored that request.

But, as with many folks here, I've seen nice autographed vintage postcard-sized photos and similar, and I've thought, "I don't mind the PSA/DNA sticker, but I wish they put it on the back."

[barrysloate]

Sorry Rich- I missed it. I got to this thread kind of late.