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Old 02-06-2009, 11:32 AM
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Posted By: Bill Stone

One of the delights in collecting the T210 series is finding out the stories behind the players. I recently acquired a large group of T210's and just for fun I randomly picked out one to research. It was Jackson of Lynchburg ( Series 2).
The SABR minor league database only had that his first name was Owen and he was born in 1882. I then began contacting
people in Lynchburg,Va. and was able to get a copy of the
June 12, 1910 Lynchburg News which contained a story about his death.According to the paper Owen Jackson,know as "Jack"
was a popular member of the Lynchburg Shoemakers. He died on
June 11, 1910 of typhoid fever and was to buried in his hometown of Frostburg,Maryland. It seems that everytime I research a player in this series there is some interesting background. Local museums and libaries are always anxious to help.

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Posted By: Jay

It would be a great project to put together short bios of everyone in the set. I bet you could get help on the board and you could do it by series to break things up.

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Posted By: David McDonald

While trying to find the Charlotte Observer article about collecting T206s (before Robert K. re-posted it) I stumbled across this page from the Greensboro NC History Museum. Has to do with Walter Hammersley who pitched in the Carolina Association and was on a T210-5 Old Mill card and a T209 Contentnea b/w card. Any body able to post either of the cards for a looksee?

And I guess a link would help: http://tinyurl.com/aeayyg

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Here you go...

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Hey Jay,that would be a great group project. Sign me up for the Point Pleasant team/players since those are the only ones I collect

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Sounds intriguing... I will take Nashville Series 8 players... I bet Andy Broome would take the Chattanooga guys as well... I am sure enough town collector's could surface to make this a fruitful little project...

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Posted By: Bill Stone

I'll be happy to take Frankfort in the Series 6 set.

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What work I'm currently doing along this line is for a different set. But I'd planned on getting info together on the Series 6 cards one day. And will welcome help!

Great thread, Bill.


Dstudeba, do you know where that Jackson came from??

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Here is the T210 scan, card not mine

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Wonder if this is the same guy anyone know??



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Posted By: Bill Stone

John --I think that is Walter Jackson who played for Spartanburg in 1910 --Owen Jackson T210 was playing for Lynchburg that year.

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Jay --not sure if this is where we should post these but you can decide the proper format and forum --let me know what information you all think is best to include, here is an example:

Patrick Henry Bohannan ( frequently spelled Bohannon) was a lifelong resident of Frankfort, Kentucky . He was born on October 31, 1878 and died on July 26, 1954.He is buried in the Frankfort Cemetery. When he was not playing ball he was, for 30 years, a salesman for a hosiery firm. His wife Josephine, was a cashier at the local movie theatre. In 1910 Patrick Bohannan signed with the Frankfort Lawmakers for the season. He had been offered a contract with Wichita in the Western League that would have doubled his salary but he decided to stay in Frankfort for the year 1910 because of the failing health of his father. During his career he played for the Frankfort team in the Blue Grass League from 1908-1911.

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Hi Frank,

Not sure, but my guess is I got it in a big lot from one of the auction houses. It was probably grouped with some Obaks or Bishops I was interested in since I don't collect T210s.

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Thanks for sharing that info Bill... good stuff.



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I have made an attempt to research backgrounds of players in the T210 series 5. Lots of stuff out there on Hammersly. He apparently was a person who appreciated history, as did his family. A number of his missives to family were preserved and many are on display at the Greensboro museum, along with his uniform, etc. For numerous other players in the series, it's a fishing expedition and zip info to be found. I contacted the hometown Chamber of Commerce of one player who played several years and made it to the high minors...they never heard of him. I told them he's buried in their city cemetery. I knew more about him than they did. Also wrote the hometown newspaper... and didn't get a response.

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Bill--That looks great. If you can find any career stats that would make it perfect. Someone (not me) should coordinate the people working on the bios. When you guys finish you can post them at a web site or sell photocopies of the write up. If someone is really handy with one of the printing programs maybe images of cards can be linked with the bios. If you cannot gather images of particular players I can help you out.

Good Luck---Jay

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I've been researching the players from my hometown of Greenville and it's been a blast. Most of the players from this set I dont believe made it out of the minors. I have found SABR's minor league roster list to be quite helpful as it cross references players to other teams they played for so that you can track their careers. As for the Greenville players I found a interesting tidbit of trivia involving Joe Jackson and Ivy Wingo, who both played for the Greenville Spinners.

I would love to hear any info picked up by others researching the Spartanburg,Anderson,columbia,charleston players too.

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Here's a bad scan of a nice card. I've got to figure out how to make this scanner do a better job of scanning...


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Fred --nice card --that would be Newton Horn who played for the Winchester Hustlers in 1909 and 1910. Thanks for sharing.

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My first post ever of images --hope it works ---story about Angermeier to follow this afternoon.

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For Bill and Frank:

Pat Bohannan pics:

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I'm sure Bill probably already has these, but they are great pics nonetheless.

Best to everyone,

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Leo Angermeier ( frequently misspelled Angmeier) is depicted on
two T210 Series 6 cards ( portrait and fielding). He was born in
Louisville, Kentucky in 1889 and began his baseball career with local Louisville teams. In 1908 he joined the Frankfort Lawmakers of the Blue Grass League. In 1909 he played in 116 games for Frankfort and in 1910 he played in 127 games (97 as catcher). Following the 1910 season he went on to play for the New Orleans Pelicans. Leo Angermeier died in Louisville, Kentucky on July 1, 1919 at the age of 29. Two other family matters are of note: Leo's brother Louis J. Angermeier was also an accomplished baseball player and he actually played in the Blue Grass League in 1908. Like his brother he also died an early death from an abscess of the liver on September 23, 1911 at the age of 25. Another family tragedy was the death of their father , Captain Theodore Angermeier. On March 28, 1890 a cyclone ( tornado) hit Louisville, Kentucky. Captain Angermeier had been at a lodge meeting moments before the cyclone hit and according to a family member I interviewed Captain Angermeier was climbing the stairs to leave the building when his hat blew off, as he went to retrieve his hat the cyclone hit collapsing the building and killing him. Leo Angermeier is buried in the family plot in St. Michaels Cemetery in Louisville, Kentucky.

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WOW, that Edgar Harris T210 is A nice looking card.

I noticed he played for both the Spartanburg and Greensboro teams in 1910. Is there a greensboro card of him from this set?

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I love looking at T210's, and reading about them.

Any more additions to this fine thread?

Thank you.
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The Chattanooga players of series 8 are my "pets." I love researching them.

Al Demaree is in this "subseries."
While many of you are familiar with Demaree from his days with the Giants, he was also a world-class cartoonist for 30 years following his baseball career. You've seen his work on the '38 Goudeys, R304 die cuts and R332 Schutter-Johnson's to name a few.
He was also a sports cartoonist for The Sporting News.
With the baseball career and the 30+ years of ink slinging, it came as a shock to learn Al died broke and alone in LA. He isn't even in a marked grave.
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They are great little cards but my favorite is the Kelly Mascot as I have it in my Avatar,the bat is bigger than the boy in the card.
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Hi Ralph

What series is the mascot in?

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Jeff,
It is from Series # 7 Goldsboro and it is my Favorite one in the entire set.I completed the set in less than 5 years,not bad for having no internet back then.
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