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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Josh
How rare is the Cobb with this back? |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: peter ullman
It's probably about as rare as the cobb w/cobb back...but much less costly! |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Why don't the creases show through on the back?? |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: B O'Brien
I'm glad that I don't have to worry about paying for that one anymore. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
I have a nice cobb with a lenox back but have troble with pictures uploading |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Kevin Saucier
Why don't the creases show through on the back?? |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I am the owner of the card and posted an answer to the question on Ebay. I am keenly aware of other Cobbs that have been rebacked. I purchased this card from another net54 member several years ago. At the time the card was raw and if I recall correctly, I bought it on the condition that the seller have the card graded by either SGC, PSA or GAI. If many of you recall, GAI was considerably more popular 2-3 years ago before they started having financial problems. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: mark s.
for robert... |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: mark s.
thank you for coming here to discuss your card. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
The front and back of the card in the auction are from my scanner. I took a digital photograph and included it below. You will note there is mild staining or toning; tilting the card in the sun light you can see where the creases on the back are. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Adam
". . . and posted an answer to the question on Ebay." |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: mark s.
brien e.- |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
No offense taken |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jamie
I have record through VintageCardPrices.com that this card was sold twice, once on eBay on 6/6/06 for $2,600 and once at 19thCenturyOnly on 09/09/06 for 2,018.25, so that would poke a major hole in your story that you bought it raw from a Network54 member. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: mark s.
jamie- |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jamie
No clue. It's just conjecture. Also, it's conceivable he sold it on ebay and then bought it back a few months later for cheaper. Who knows? |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: mark s.
well... researched the 19thcenturyonly.com website, and this IS, in fact, the same card sold in their auction that ended 9/8/06... |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Eric S.
there's something wrong with the card (edited to say it's good to get to the bottom of this for the seller and those wishing to bid and good luck. The benefits of drawing attention to a card here). It's like if you think your girlfriend is cheating on you.......she probably is. If you think that this has been rebacked..........it probably has. This is just simply not a card to buy on ebay (imo) and is likely another example of the flaws and inconsistency in grading. The seller has wisely baited the hook here, but Jamie's research would require definitive answers (answered). As a Marine I think it's unnecessary to use your service or "god" as many do to try and sell cards (I stick to this statement). I've served in two combat theaters and outside of making me a little crazy and beat up I can't imagine how it's supposed to help me sell pre-war cards. You want credibility in this trade, earn it by selling authentic cards at appropriate pricing with fast shipping. That's all anyone cares about. There was a time when service did add some credibility to character and being a free society you have the right to express yourself, but comparing Police to those indicted in the "Rodney King" case or military individuals to the handful of corrupt Soldiers at Abu is childish. This is a hobby, nobody's dying here. You don't like it, don't buy it. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Dave F
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I have been a member on this board since probably I'm guessing 2003 or 2004. My best guess is that I purchased this card 2 or 3 years ago, and it was definitely purchased from a board member. I have scans of when it was raw, he had it graded and then I purchased it. How he came into possession of it, I don't know. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Shawn
Dave F, |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Tim
The card in the 19thcenturyonly auction was sold on 9/8/2006 in the same holder, with the same cert# as the one being offered now. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I'll see what I can find in my financial records. I do have scans of the card when it was ungraded on my computer and it appears that I saved those scans (received them) in September 2005. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Dan Koteles
I think that card is good. Iam sure STeve Verkman owned it about 10 yrs ago, it sold in his auction for 650.00....those were the days my friend , I thought they'd never end , da da da da , da da da da da de, da da da da da da, da da da da da da , da da da da oh yes, "those were the days" ! |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian Engelhard
I can't find my 2006 check records right now. I logged into the 19C website and can't access my old invoices. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Now Brian, we'd appreciate if you would confirm that you did not beat Rodney King or abuse innocent Iraqi criminals. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Dave F
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I was probably still in High School during the Rodney King incident. As for Iraq, I was there with First Infantry Division in 2004-2005, I'm proud of my Bronze Star but wouldn't go back for all the money in world. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: dan mckee
but nothing like the Cobb back, I have owned 3 Lenox Cobb's and I think Elkins has me beat in that department, Dan. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I'm thinking I'll hang on to the Broadleaf 460 though |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jim VB
Brian, |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian E.
I saw that...I weighed using the BST, consignment to an auction house or using Ebay. All things considered, Ebay works best for me. |
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Posted By: Jamie
Sorry if my last post was inflammatory. I do respect our soldiers and police officers and what they have done for this country. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The Red portrait Ty Cobb was American Lithographic's "signature picture"....it was printed on 24 different |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: leon
When did you start lumping T213-2, T213-3, T214 and T215 into the T206 group? If you are going to go there you might as well throw in T216's too. While we are at it the D303's and some others come to mind with the same front images....best regards |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Richard
Leon - I think Ted is just talking about the issues with the same T206 Red Portrait Cobb front image. The T216 and D303 do not have this image. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
I do believe I stated that that there are 24 different T206 backs and I listed them. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jon Canfield
Jamie, I totally disagree with your statement concerning GAI that "their business is bankrupt. That inherently makes their opinion obsolete." |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Brian Weisner
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: robert a
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: dennis
ok, so, if that card is in a psa holder ,there is no debate here at all about its authenticty.......now that is a joke,right? |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Robert {Bigb13}
What do you guys think mine would fetch at auction? Rob |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Bobby Binder
I sold Brian his Carolina Brights Cobb card a few years ago and it was a flawless transaction. |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Cat
Geez, give this guy a break. But, I do have one sincere question for you if you wouldn't mind anwering it: |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jamie
If the card is legit then great! |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Jamie
And yes, I have been a member of the Communist Party. See links below: |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
The Surgeon General has declared that "reading this thread is hazardous to your sanity". |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: dan mckee
Ted, You feel the Lenox Cobb is tougher than the Drum and red hindu? Dan |
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Curious about this T206 Cobb W/Lenox back....
Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
After the BL 460 and the DRUM....the 6 other back's difficulty is "6 of 1, or 1/2 a dozen of another". |
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