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Posted By: JakeBushi
"Claims of knowledgeable lurkers are about as valid as those of Bigfoot sightings until proven otherwise." |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Do I really have to explain it? It seems pretty obvious, but to save you having to make a another response... |
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Posted By: JakeBushi
Oh, OK. So because people do not post on this board, they must not be knowledgeable. Nice. |
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Posted By: JakeBushi
And by the way, who exactly has said that you have "attacked" new posters? |
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Posted By: Joann
Jake, |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
It's the damn advertising that has really killed this board. And the cockfighting. The advertising and the cockfighting! |
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Posted By: leon
I totally agree that a lurker adds no knowledge to the board, for the most part. Two things I would point out though. If you have been posting on this board long enough you have inevitbaly gotten emails from lurkers. Not too long ago we were talking about a super rare card in high grade. I forget what it was now but I got an email/scan of a card that the lurker owned and he said I could post it on the board to help with the thread. He is one of the top Registry guys and I hear he is a darn nice person (as most are). I have gotten many, many (no doubt partly because I am moderator and also post almost as much as anyone) other emails from lurkers with information helping out with topics we are debating. As far as "knowing" how many lurkers there are, and their identity, I know at the Net54 dinner there was one of the most noted SGC graded card collectors there and he never posts....but reads the board every day. I know because I asked him. I know of dozens of lurkers myself and many of them are very knowledgable and nice......they just don't care to join in the fray. Also, my guess is that almost all vintage dealers that are on the net at least lurk here....why not? All of that being said I still agree it is not quantifiable what lurkers add to the forum but it's much more than "nothing"....regards |
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Posted By: Joann
Exactly right Leon. Well put. Everyone has a sense of them being out there, both from receiving emails directly or hearing second-hand about someone meeting at National, etc. But overall they are kind of mythical in that they are undefinable - there simply isn't any info. |
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Posted By: Alan
I met a few lurkers at the National (who were registry guys) & they could not have been nicer. They respected me, even though I was looking for nothing higher than PSA-1. |
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Posted By: Joann
I should make it clear here that I really don't have anything against lurking at all. I tend to stay around the edges of a lot of things too, and don't want my theoretical discussion of direction of board to be interpreted as a stance on lurking in general. |
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Posted By: Jason Duncan
I have been here a long time. I am more a lurker than a poster. I read almost everyday, but I do not post much. I do think in the past there are alot of OT threads that got shut down that would not be now. I do not know why, other than maybe we are going through a growing phase and Leon possibly does not have time to handle every thread. I have been on here for several years and I have obtained some knowledge through the board. However, I feel the last couple of years I have done alot less reading and more looking at the B/S/T part because I have to filter through about 90% of the OT stuff I dont care for. I really dont mind as long as everyone is treated fairly. I really have no complaint nor do I have a solution. I still feel people like Sloate, TedZ, Jim, and a few others bring up great topics and offer free knowledge on things they research. As far as discussing other items I could care less, but if you have a problem with it just go to CU or some other forum. I actually think the banners were a good idea. However, if the revenue compromises the orginal rules of OT topics for the sake of numbers then that isnt right either. I see no major problems with the way the borad is run now. If more OT topics are allowed in then there will be a problem. Of course, then the problem could possibly cause alot of good, knowledgable people to either leave or post alot less often. I can see some members' frustration, but you are always going to have complainers and whiners and they usually are the same 1-2% of the group. Sometimes you just have to let the "dogs bark". While I agree some threads shouldnt be kept going, the board seems just fine to me and I think you will have those OT from time to time that we should maybe discuss. I think Leon keeps a good medium and what is allowed for now. Just my 2 cents. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
As far as lurkers go- and a nicer term for them might be "perusers"- posting on a chatboard is not everybody's cup of tea. I recall when I first started posting I realized that I had to stay with the thread because someone might ask me a question some time later that required an answer. So it's actually a bit of work to keep on top of things, and not everyone has the time or desire. |
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Posted By: George
I am new to the board and have posted only a few times. My only background is in T206 cards and even with that, I think I have limited knowledge compared to some of the other experts here. I think overtime however I'll be able to provide some good insight and look forward to seeing postings where I can provide my opinions/feedback. Thanks. |
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Posted By: leon
So I was just on the phone with Barry discussing this thread a little bit. I reiterated my thought that it is really a bunch of "to do" about nothing. Don't get me wrong as I think it's a worthwhile topic to be discussed...I just don't see the main thrust of this thread as being a big issue. On this front page we counted 1-2 off topics that were far off ie.. not about baseball. We counted 1-2 about current baseball which is really only slightly off topic. I just don't see the point about "all of these off topics"....unless they are imaginary? I will step in if there are too many going on, as I often do. As far as knowledge on the board....Look down the list of folks starting threads and the folks participating in them. I am very proud of Net54 the way it is today and the folks participating. Has it changed somewhat? Sure it has, but so has the hobby, and so have many folks that used to be in it, who have gotten out for whatever reason they had........Thanks to everyone for STILL making this a great place to talk about Pre-War Baseball cards. One last thing about advertisers....There is no one, or collective set, of advertisers that will ever sway my/our decisions on how to run the board...I can safely promise that. Historically that is a fact too. I don't need the money it brings in but it's still nice to have for a card budget... .....best regards |
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Posted By: E, Daniel
I guess everyone who is now considered a long time poster and knowledgable hobbyist just arrived on this board, on the year of inception, and has been here ever since. |
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Posted By: Marc Del Percio
I have been avidly collecting baseball cards since I was about two years old and it remains a passion today. I spend a lot of time researching and studying the hobby and the game itself. So I like to think that I have a pretty solid base of knowledge. I read the board every day but rarely post. |
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Posted By: Joann
Well geez Daniel. I guess I picked the wrong word and accidentally got you all ruffled up. Of course I did not mean mythical in the sense of being literally non-existent. I meant mythical in the sense of being elusive, difficult to pin down, and known more by anecdotal comments than any actual information. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
J- |
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Posted By: Joseph
After almost a year of discovering and becoming an active contributor to this board, I have stopped posting, mainly because of threads such as this. |
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Posted By: jay behrens
Jake, just ask E Daniel, Asphaltman and others that hate me. They will tell you that I randomly attack newbie posters and scare off people from this board because of my bluntness and style. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Marc- even though your questions about T205 and T207 only received 4-5 responses, did you feel that they were sufficiently answered? |
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Posted By: E, Daniel
Here are a couple of quotes in this thread that I think show clearly some posters believe all/most knowledge about vintage cards either resides here currently on the board, or has left with the non-participation of a couple hobbyists. |
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Posted By: Marc Del Percio
Barry - Rather than specific questions, I was more interested in ideas/discussion on series distribution and how some of the more unusual variations occurred. Perhaps not many felt that they had a substantive opinion or knowledge on those topics (you were one of the few that did reply...thanks ) I am always a bit surprised at relatively how little discussion the T205 set gets as I feel it has at least as many mysteries and interesting discussion points as T206 and other often studied sets. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I guess some threads don't get the attention they should. |
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Posted By: Alan
It's the reason people tune in to watch shows like Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight, TMZ show, etc,... |
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Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
This board hasn't changed a bit since I started reading it 3+ years ago...there have been some knowledgeable people who have left and we have gained others. OT threads will still garner more posts than the on topic stuff and that is true of nearly every internet venue out there. Human nature I would call it...once people become familiar with one another they like to chat about "other stuff" and IMO that's okay. This constant bickering about too much off topic posting could be immediately remedied if Leon would simply add a forum for all off topic discussion...most internet boards have one. |
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Posted By: leon
I agree with most of your sentiments. The reason I don't make a place to have "only" off topic posts is that, quite honestly, I think a few off topics are healthy for the board. They really need to be done in moderation though (I guess that's my job) or we will only have a water fountain chatboard effect where anything and everything is spoken about, without any real focus. I prefer a happy median.....Also, please remember that no matter what decision I make I will almost always make someone unhappy. I try to make as few as possible unhappy but it will never be 0. I have learned to live with that..... |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
By the way, I just went back all the way to 2003 - easy to do just go to page 273 |
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Posted By: Matt
Dan - please don't pollute our speculative thread with facts! |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Hey, check out the intricate question asked by James Walker about Domino Discs...he got two whole responses. Neither of which wholly answered his questions. |
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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Good post Dan, nothing like facts to ruin some speculation and opinion. |
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Posted By: leon
you are an instigator !!! BTW, why didn't we get to talk more at the National? Next year, if you make it, we need to hang out some.....shoot the poop so to speak.... |
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
"I suppose folks like us who collect Ty Cobb cards do the most romanticizing." |
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Posted By: Randy Trierweiler
Hey Leon, I did go back to your table a couple of times, but missed you. I will be in Chicago next year for sure. We will definetly get together. Randy |
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Posted By: chris bland
Some people like the off-topic stuff, some find it annoying. Personally, I find it annoying and a hinderance to what the board's purported goals are. |
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Posted By: Al Simeone
Leon, |
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Posted By: peter chao
Chris, |
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Posted By: chris bland
Peter, |
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Posted By: Al Simeone
Peter C., |
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Posted By: leon
I certainly understsand your, and many others', frustration on the subject of O/T.....It really is a fine line of pissing off board members while trying to keep focused.....I hope some of the off topic threads will die down and if they don't then I might lock a few more. IF I DO lock any please understand it's not a personal issue. Most of them really don't bother ME that much but I need to be mindful of the board's views. To help the cause I hope everyone that hates the OT stuff will post a good thread....If it gets responses then great...if not then you can at least say you tried....what more can ya' do?....best regards |
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Posted By: peter chao
Al, |
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Posted By: chris bland
Leon, |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I just posted about a new card ten minutes ago. |
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Posted By: chris bland
"I'm simply pointing out that if pre-war vintage cards are so fascinating we would be getting inundated with new posts about cards." |
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Posted By: peter chao
Chris, |
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Posted By: chris bland
Peter, |
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Posted By: Al Simeone
Peter, |
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Posted By: barrysloate
If I recall correctly, I think I was the one who taught Peter how to do the smiley face. I think I unleashed a monster! |
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Barry, to make amends could you please explain to Peter C. what a non-sequitur is? |
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