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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Damian
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: jeffdrum
I think given the fact that he started @ 28, played only 10 seasons and put up with a load of crap, his accomplishments are quite remarkable. I don't think I have ever heard him referred to as the greatest 2B of all time. I'd go with Eddie Collins there. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Justin
I just read a biography of him, and I agree that his stats don't tell the whole picture. He had a couple amazing years most notably 1949, could do everything very well, and was generally regarded as the key to the Dodgers success. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: T E
Jackie was a revolutionary figure in baseball history. He totally changed the way baseball was played. Greatest 2nd baseman of all time? I don't know. Maybe not. But his importance to baseball and American history far exceeds the parameters of that question. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Damian
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: T E
I would take Jackie over Maz (are we actually comparing Bill Mazeroski to Jackie?) and the much more talented than Maz Joe Morgan. Lajoie is so far back I don't know how to compare, and Hornsby clearly was one of the greatest hitters of all-time, but why the heck were teams so anxious to see him gone? No, gimme Jackie, dancing off third. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Jason
When talking about Jackie I think that there are two oft forgotten things that need to be considered when his greatness |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Mike
Though no one can take away his accomplishments. They speak for themselves. I did read several times over the years, that Branch picked Jackie, as much for his demeanor, and personality, as he did for his athelic ability. According to a reliable source, there were better ball players than Jackie, in the negro Leagues, but Branch knew it required much more than that. And Jackie certainly proved him right. Can you imagine if Branch had brought up some super athlete with Bond's personality? The establishment would have said "See blacks don't belong in the bigs. Look at how they behave". Branch was a bright man it seems. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Damian
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: dennis
he was derek jeter with speed. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Jason
I think that you are mis reading my Jordan comparison the point is to show how difficult it is to be truely great at more than one sport, how rarely greatness is really found over a range of athletic displines- as to the other two sport stars you mention I really think that the Jackie towers over all of them as well |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Andrew Parks
In 1999, the world voted for Jackie Robinson as the second-baseman on baseball's All-Century Team. Robinson received over 788,000 votes and Hornsby received over 630,000. Therefore, not only has Robisnon been called the greatest second-baseman of all-time, but he was also voted on by over 788,000 people! |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
To even suggest that Jackie Robinson as a player might belong in the same class as Gregg Jeffries is simply a result of not watching the man play. Speak to people who saw Robinson play and you'll get your answer as to how great a player he was. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Damian
thats what i said.... |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: peter chao
Guys, |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
Jackie Robinson was one of the greatest, most important people to ever play the game BEFORE he laced up his spikes in Brooklyn for the first time. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: brian
he is overrated as a player, but is an icon. Hornsby should rate higher. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Justin
I honestly think Hornsby is the one who is overrated. His numbers are very impressive but the teams he played for seemed to have no problem cutting him loose even as he was putting up gaudy numbers. He managed the Cardinals to the World's Championship in 1926 and was traded in the off-season, and was traded 3 times in the span of two seasons right in his peak. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: brian
i agree with you about Hornsby being the better hitter. thats why I would take him. Robinson was the better all-around athlete, more mobile. maybe the only other baseball player with more athleticism than Robinson was Bo Jackson? |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Jeff Lichtman
Robinson was a highly disruptive player while on the basepaths. That is not reflected in his numbers. I spent the weekend with someone who saw Jackie play and he told me that he was an incredibly great player due to that one factor. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Frank Wakefield
The All Century team stuff is crap.... |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Brian H (misunderestimated)
Easily rates in the top 10 2nd Basemen of all time simply in terms of his playing (bracketing out the fact that he was likely the most significant player in the history of the major leagues). |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: RC McKenzie
Today on espn Dusty Baker compared him to Ricky Weeks and John Kruk said he was reminded of Placido Polanco. The Mets ex GM Steve Phillips said Craig Biggio. I never saw Robinson play, but have always assumed that he is highly regarded as a pioneer/ambassador in the socio-economic-political sense for his courage and intellect. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: BcD
Jason Giambi and his good buddy Mark McGuire had terrible stats while going through a divorce. This is true of Frank Thomas and many others as well.Imagine the emotional toll on Jackie while being the burdon of a crucified Christ or Duke Lacrosse player for the breaking of the color barrier and how well he may have played if he came along a little later in time! |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: RC McKenzie
Did you guys see Sydney Pollack in tonight's episode of the Sopranos? I think he missed his calling. He could have been a great actor. cheers! |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: peter chao
Jackie was a better running back than baseball player. He was a superior version of Bo Jackson. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: Julie Vognar
and Al C. Risafulli. |
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How Great was Jackie Robinson?
Posted By: anthony
growing up i played a lot of 2B and my brother (10 years older) was my coach.... after a game one time i remember my mom asking him how i did in the game and he said "well, he's no jackie robinson but he'll do" |
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