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Posted By: Joe D.
I picked up this photo on eBay... listed as a "Rare" Real Photo Postcard.... and "very rare" in the listing itself. |
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Posted By: jamie
i looked at the seller's past auctions. the most damning thing against these being real is that all of his items seem to be on the same type of paper. even the reverse staining shows continuity from one card to the next- as if someone got a hold of some old paper. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
This is mainly a gut feeling about the image you've posted, it looks like it is not from the late 1800s or the turn of the century, but is a card from more recent times, maybe the late 1950s or 1960s. The edges and corners don't look like what I'd expect from a pre 1900 piece. Have you illuminated it with black light? What is on the back? That information would help. |
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Posted By: steve f
Beautiful photo; Laser sharp (front) edges and no stain transfer through back to front, kinda scary. Also, the way the photo curves along portions of the black border, just seems abnormal... No way to make the sale via PP for safety? |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: Joe D.
Edit to say: I guess I did pay via PayPal - my memory is shot! |
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Posted By: steve f
David's site offers ideas to determine fakes, and the blacklight thing. Also, if it's fake and you hadn't left feedback yet... Seller may not be willing to trash his unblemished record by denying you a return, regardless of the 14day restriction. I sure wouldn't. good luck www.cycleback.com |
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Posted By: joe brennan
I also saw the auctions from this seller and e-mailed him if it was vintage. Looking at his past auctions he has sold the same cards, postcards and same photos over and over. I can't remember how he worded it, but from what I read in his e-mail they are not originals. |
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Posted By: ramram
Sorry, but its not an original vintage photo. If it were an original 1890's image, it would have typically been an albumen image placed on a thicker mount. The other possiblity would be an unmounted albumen, which you don't see often because of the fragility, but that would much thinner than your image. |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I set a snipe on this guys PCL postcard he has up right now last night...now that I take a closer look at the cut on the postcard and it appears he has now added a back scan and does not guarantee the age I have cancelled my snipe. |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: T E
First confront the seller, tell him you want a refund. Then... |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: Joe D.
the seller never mentions the age of the item or the word 'vintage'.... so the listing may have been carefully constructed? |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: fkw
Portland AZO Postcard. The "AZO 4 up" back was used from 1904-18 |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Joe- careless sellers throw the words "rare" and "very rare" around with reckless abandon. I don't think that would be an accurate gauge as to its true difficulty. If it is a modern repro, the term "rarity" is meaningless. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
Frank, do you think that Portland card is vintage? |
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Posted By: Rhys
I have seen lots of this guys stuff and I think he (or a supplier)is making modern photos look older. I also think that the markings on the back of that Portland postcard are added after the fact and are not original postcard stamps. The lines and words are too grainy. Also, the left edge appears frayed as if it were a modern piece that has not been handled enough over the years to make the tiny paper shavings leftover from the the cutting process to be rubbed off. It also just does not look right. I have seen and owned thousands of real photo postcards from this era and I have never seen a RPPC with back stamps that look quite like that. |
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Posted By: fkw
Looking at his past auctions he has sold a 1890s Pittsburgh team with the same stain on back and black border. he also had an indian AZO postcard with the same black border. It seems all his postcards have one of 2 backs, and all are in the exact same condition and unused. Either he ran across a hoard of unused postcards or somehow he made them and did a good job. I saw one where he identified a not well known mountain in California that was not identified on photo, yet he lives in New Orleans. The only question is why would hew make cheep postcards? Over 1/2 the postcards he has sold are around $5. When I look through antique stores I see alot of AZO real photo postcards, so I know they are out there. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
I should mention that the Brooklyn photo in Joe's original post is also the same photo that the scammer I exposed last year was using. That guy was alot dumber though as he was printing 19th century photos on Velox paper. |
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Posted By: fkw
Dan, I was just pointing out that the type of AZO back is right for the photo age. Like Rhys pointed out above, I was also thinking the back was too blury and didnt match the quality of stamp usually seen by AZO. These are more spotty and the color is different. |
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Posted By: fkw
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Posted By: Joe D.
this photo does flouresce very brightly under the black light. |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: davidcycleback
I notice the seller doesn't say it is vintage. The seller says the stock is |
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Posted By: Joe D.
David, |
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Posted By: davidcycleback
It's the responsibility of the seller to give an indication of a photo's age, |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Hey Joe D., |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: D Brown
Hi, I'm a lurker, first post here, forgive any lapses in etiquette. |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: ramram
There...now you have it. |
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Posted By: Frank Wakefield
Welcome, D Brown. |
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Photo ID help - is this vintage?
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I have already emailed him to ask why he is not disclosing that these are reproductions. So far no word back....and doubt if I will hear anything. |
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