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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
Is it just me, or are PSA's grading standards for T3s much more forgiving than on any regular sized card? It seems as though there are a lot of rough looking 4s out there. I wonder if the seemingly easy grades are being given because psa knows that collectors will submit to them over sgc if there is a perception that they will get a higher grade. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Brett
I don't understand how T3's with pinholes grade above 1.... |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: MINE'S MINT
when did PSA start giving grades above 1 to t3's with pinholes?.. i have yet to see an example that fits this description.. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: barrysloate
Now that SGC is starting to grade T3's, we'll be able to see how much stricter their grading will be. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: jay wolt
I have over 100 PSA T3/T9's and have submitted almost another |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: jay wolt
Here is one of my pin hole beauties that would grade a bit higher |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
This topic was not really intended to address pinholes, but cards with ordinary wear, paperloss, etc that are getting graded far higher than what their technical grade should be. I cant tell you how many times Ive seen t3s with severely rounded corners and creasing or staining that wouldnt merit more than a 2 if on a regular size card, and its sitting in a 4 holder. For example, this card recently sold on ebay - should it really be a 4 - its got paperloss, a very rounded bottom right corner and terrible edges: |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: jay wolt
JOSH - don't know if I agree w/ the assesment that PSA has this |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
Jay - you may very well be right. But call me a skeptic - Im sure psa had knowledge that sgc was preparing to enter the oversize card market. Further, while I think many on this board preach the "buy the card, not the slab" philosophy, I think that you are underestimating the amount of collectors who will buy a psa 4 over a similar looking sgc 40 because its in a slab with a higher number on it. I also do not think that the liquidity of t3s regardless of grade will ever be a concern. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: joe
Maybe I'm wrong , but I don't see much difference in the corners of this card. It's the same grade as the T3. It doesn't look like the T3 got a higher grade. I know there are better eyes out there than mine, so comments.? |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
Joe, |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: joe
Josh, I can't explain it. It just highlights the inconsistencies that PSA and other grading companies have when grading cards. I'm not sure PSA is grading more lenient, but time will tell as these cards get published and sold. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Al C.risafulli
I recently had this T3 graded by SGC; it graded out at SGC-50. I think it's fairly graded; there's a wrinkle on the upper-left corner and a rust-colored smudge about an inch long and a few millimeters wide on the reverse, at the bottom. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: T206Collector
...I am willing to bet that the Cy Young has two wrinkles somewhere making it a 2 rather than a 3. In fact, I am pretty sure I can see at least one in the lower lefthand border. If I am wrong, that card would like great in an SGC 40 holder. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
edited to remove double post. |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: Josh K.
T206 - I know exactly why each card rec'd the grade that it did. I assure you that the young has no creases/wrinkles anywhere. What you see in the lower left is a tiny spot of paperloss (anything you think you see on the border is not a crease). That is the reason for the grade. The point of the post was not to contend that my cards were graded improperly. Its to show that the other cards were overgraded (the t3 has a large amount of paperloss and the t207 has similar corners as the young and a small white spot that looks to be similar to the one on my young). |
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PSA Graded T3s
Posted By: T206Collector
I get the point of the post, but I think either your cards were graded improperly or you are missing some flaws here. I've seen and owned a number of PSA graded T206 cards with better grades than a 2 with that level of paper loss on the front. That card is a 3, unless there is something else we're missing, even by SGC's standards. And, if you need a loop to see the wrinkle on the Plank, then it should be a 4. |
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