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References Requested: Wade Carsel
Posted By: David
Has anyone made large mail purchases from "wadecarsel"? Would you send $10,000+ in the mail to his PO box? He refuses to sign a 2-3 line contract. No Paypal and I offered to pay the fees. I stated FedEx for the bank check. He played dumb and stated ''I still don't understand how FedEx fits into the equation''? My reply, ''I will send the Wells Fargo certified check tomorrow via FedEx overnight'' copy / pasted from the previous email sent to him. No reply yet from this email. I requested a physical (home) address not a PO Box. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
I seem to remember Wade from a long time ago, big body building guy if I am not confusing him with someone else, and he's a good guy, been in the hobby forever. But if you are nervous sending 10K in the mail to a stranger, why are you doing it? |
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Posted By: TONY
I used to deal with wade many yrs ago.......never heard anything negative on him....but again haven't dealt with him since early 90's |
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Posted By: Josh K.
Dont know him, but I wouldnt send the money based on what you've stated thus far. |
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Posted By: Seth B.
Don't know him either, but if you're willing to spend 10K, why not spend another $200 on a plane ticket and do the transaction in person? |
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Posted By: Jim F
I do not know this person nor have I ever heard of him. That being said, I wouldn't touch this deal with a 10 foot pole!! This guy wants to make a $10k deal and can't even run out to buy a $50 scanner to send you pics? No cert numbers, no physical address? He has not givin you any proof that the cards even exist. And you're actually thinking about it?!? There lure of a good deal always clouds peoples judgements, you're ignoring every red flag. A respectable collector/dealer does not deal in this manner. Jim |
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Posted By: Joe D.
makes sense to me. |
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Posted By: Keith O'Leary
I remember the name from the 90s. Can't remember anything negative, but I'd play it safe and not be sorry.
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Posted By: scott brockelman
Wade has been a non-sports dealer for many,many years and has been a regular at the National and Ft. Washington many times as well. The magazine he probably referred to was "The Wrapper" a non-sports card publication, where he has advertised forever. While I cannot personaly vouch for him on this deal, he has been a long time upstanding member of the hobby, however as you seemed to have sense he is a little bit different, nothing wrong with that, there are alot of different personalities in this hobby/world. He takes things at a very slow pace, no hurries, no rush, etc |
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Posted By: mike wrenn
No scan, No home address, No signed 2-3 line contract |
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Posted By: leon
So far I still have never been scammed by anyone that would talk on the phone (knock on wood). Sometimes a friendly phone conversation will alleviate fears. Like Scott B said he might just be an old timer and not want the hassle of all this technical crap. If he won't speak with you on the phone then by all means I wouldn't do the deal. If he does then I bet you can get a warm fuzzy and follow through. There are more folks like this one than one would imagine. Most people in the US still don't have internet at their homes, I believe. good luck and let us know how it turns out.... |
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Posted By: scott brockelman
here is the editor of the magazine he advertises in with his contact info. ask him for his advice. |
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Posted By: David
I appreciate the emails and comments on this great forum! (1) email was very negative for non receipt. I also contacted Les but all he could tell me is Wade was a subscriber and paid. What I am looking for is someone that dealt with Wade on LARGE deals and what terms were honored. The suggestion to speak on the phone is a great idea!!! Another issue, the # is unlisted. Maybe he would meet me at the airport. However, it is unlikely due to previous inflexibility. I am still researching what to do and will wait for the untimely email to arrive back to me with a curve ball. |
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Posted By: leon
You have to correspond with him somehow ....telegraph, smoke signals, email or something. When you correspond with him then I would ask if he could chat with you for a few minutes on the phone and ask for his #. If there is no way to get a warm fuzzy about your transaction then I would also be careful. The gentleman is probably good but it's always good to verify..... |
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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis
For whatever this is worth.......I have known and made deals with Wade going |
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Posted By: Cobby33
Try an escrow company or locating a PI in his jurisdiction. No joke. If you can't make it yourself, have someone else complete the trasnaction for you. |
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Posted By: Gary Nuchereno
I have known wade 25 years going back to shows in strongsville Ohio. He is different but very honest and I wouldn't worry about his integrity. He sets up at most |
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Posted By: David
I asked to complete the deal at the National and will have a table. Unfortunately, Wade mentioned the cost is prohibitive and is looking forward to the following National (in his backyard). This does not sounds like a 'big time dealer since 1979'. A PO box would normally not create red flags but does to me due to the lack of willingness to accept any form of payment that would protect my interests in the slightest including or a document. Who in the world would not sign a 2-3 line 'contract' stating the terms of the deal and the parties involved. I even offered to pay for all FedEx overnight fees. This does not create an expense and can be picked up from his home. |
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Posted By: David
I have decided not to pursue the deal. |
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Posted By: Joann
Well, as usual, a day late and a dollar short with input. |
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Posted By: scott brockelman
I have bought and sold a few baseball cards, but have never requested nor been asked to execute a contract of any kind. What is the purpose of such? |
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Posted By: Brian E.
What were the terms of the contract? |
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Posted By: Steve M.
at a fevor pitch. Just what is the deal? Maybe someone here can make it work? |
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Posted By: David
All I requested was something in writing to include the cards, price and parties involved (after no Paypal, no credit card, no home address, no personal checks, no website and no eBay presence). Nothing fancy, no legal ease and only 2-3 lines. I offered to pay all FedEx Overnight fees and pay for Registered insured for the cards. I did not ask for any special favors or make unreasonable demands (in my opinion) not to mention a much higher offer then he had on the table. |
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Posted By: PC
David: you are 100% in the right here. Whether it is $10,000 or $10, a seller should be reasonably accomodating to a buyer (and all the more so as the dollar number goes higher). This Wade character was obviously not -- to the point where you had virtually none of the typical assurances that could (and should) be given in any normal transaction. |
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Posted By: Cobby33
I would be likewise uncomfortable. Had a similar situation with a T206 Magie. He (the seller - not this Wade guy) gave me only a "work address" and cell phone #. He would not use Paypal, an escrow company or do a face-to-face transaction. What's the big deal? I can understand privacy re: P.O. Boxes, I buy and sell from mine all the time...But I also give buyers the option of using Paypal (which arguably protects buyers) and my eBay/Paypal email is my work address. |
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Posted By: WPA
In regards to the gentleman who is the dealer in question. There are a lot of collectibles dealers that operate out of their homes, with a PO Box, that don't take credit cards, that don't operate on the internet. Its a second part time job for most of them. |
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