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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: jackgoodman
from the Mr. X collection looks trimmed to my bespeckled eyes. What do others think? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Wesley
You might be right, but it is difficult to tell for sure from the scan. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: scgaynor
PSA must really be feeling the heat to get more submissions in the vintage card market. This whole "Mr X collection" is kind of cheezy. I am all for items having great provenance, but who is Mr X? I can understanding labeling something as "Halper Collection" or "White Mountain" Collection, as it points to a special one time collection of great significance. If all of the cards were 8s and 9s, it would make sense, but not 1's and 4's. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Dave H
I am new to collecting pre-war cards, with interest in T206 and T207. I have been collecting the 1957 Topps set PSA 8 for about 5 years and about half done. Once I finish I am planning to send my slabs back to PSA for reholdering the "Hobson Collection". |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Josh K.
very cheezy - but Im not fooled at all - the collection actually belonged to Mr. T. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I laughed when I read Mr Schwartz's thread about his "find". IMO he should have posted that in the B/S/T section as it was clear he was hyping his "find" to potential buyers in this chatroom. As for PSA putting "Mr. X" on the holders who could blame them? They're in business to make money and if slabbing a high profile card (even if it's only high profile because of who owned it) gets them a little more publicity who cares? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Come on Scott, where is your sense of adventure? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: scgaynor
If it is a sense of adventure that you are looking for, maybe they should put a black cover over the card so not only can you guess at who "Mr X" is, but you can guess at what card is graded. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: al davis
i agree with you, jack. even though it's a blurry scan, the top corners are unnaturally sharp compared to the rounded bottom corners. but psa (piece of sh@t authenticators) needs the hype. so be it. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
Scott, |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Dan Bretta
I take back what I said about PSA. I should have clicked on the link before I posted. I had no idea that they actually put "MR X" on the slab. I thought they put the persons name on the slab, but that MR. X was only being used here. I wonder who's decision it was to put that on the slab? I wonder if there really is a Mr. X? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: tjschwartz
Card was already in an aged holder that only said 1911 Eddie Plank. I just had it re-slabbed. The whole idea of Mr. X was mine and Mr. X's. Wanted to have some fun. Am I trying to drum up interest in the collection? YOU BETCHA! What's wrong with that? Don't we see Hunt, Josh, etc on ESPN hyping up rare items in future auctions all the time? Been a vintage dealer and store owner for 17 years and deals like this don't come around too often. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Zach
comin from a blurry scan I dont know what to think but the top border seems to slightly go down hill from the top right corner to the top left corner...and no one thinks the psa5 plank is trimmed because it is clearly not... at least as far as I can tell |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: davidcycleback
Seriously, I don't think there's anything with having some fun. I'm neither the seller or the buyer of the Plank, so my opinion on the aethetics is beside the point. My only objection is that PSA doesn't allow me to put "He Hate Me" or "ARod is a phoney" on my labels. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Julie
things)--is it because the card is a bit blurry, or does Plank--not quite look like himself? Ot do my old eyes fail me? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Glenn
I found "Mr. X" with old friend google. Apparently he's some sort of cartoonist-pornographer. Now we know. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: jay behrens
If you read the article, only the Plank and Magee are getting the Mr X Collection label. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: warshawlaw
The whole point of provenance is to establish that it went through the hands of someone famous or expert in the field. If you don't tell who it is, the whole thing is self-defeating. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: dan mckee
Amazing how so many just assume because a rare card is found and graded, that it's trimmed. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: leon
I doubt the Mr.X Plank is trimmed. More often than not PSA get's it right. Of course that could mean 49% are wrong....just kiddin'. I would imagine the vast majority are fine. I do think they don't know vintage as well as SGC but we have pretty much not only beat, but buried, that horse. As for the Mr.X designation I don't think it's a great idea. Yes, marketing and hype can help sell stuff but I don't think this sets a good precedent. When I sell my collection am I going to get PSA (right?) to put "From the Leon Luckey Collection" on it? Or if Tbob sells his is he going to get the "From the Trophy Bob Collection" on those holders? I hope not. I can see it now...every darn screwball now wants his name on a stupid holder. And I think someone said "PSA holders sell better". My only question is what did the holders grade? "Blurry 8", or "warped 7", how about "scratched 6". Can you actually slab a holder? The more I am in the hobby the less I like grading.... regards |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
I agree with you on most points except that Tbob will somehow incorporate the word 'FRIGGIN'(tm) into his slabs........ |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Ray
why are they so different if they were slabbed at the same time? |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: barrysloate
I'm sitting here trying to think exactly why I find the Mr X designation so utterly ridiculous, and while I can't put my finger on it, I think it is funny because PSA went to the trouble to add this to the label and it in fact tells us absolutely nothing at all. It adds no cache, doesn't reveal the previous owner, doesn't even let us know if there was anything of importance we should know about this Mr X. Was his collection special, or no better or worse than any other collection in the hobby? Like Seinfeld was a "show about nothing", this is a label about nothing. Nothing whatsoever is enhanced by having that extra line of type on it. It's comical for sure, and I think PSA is just playing a joke on us. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: dstudeba
So what happens when the next famous-guy-who-doesn't-want-to-be-known gets his collection slabbed? Is it the Mr. Y collection? Personally I thought TJ was pulling our leg when he said that it was going on the slab. Pretty stupid in my humble opinion, I would probably have PSA reslab it and remove the name if I owned it because it would be my card, not Mr. X's. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: TJ Schwartz
First off, as previously mentioned, only the Plank and Magie have the Mr. X tag. I bet the buyer doesn't get it reslabbed. Just an opinion, but for $5, the winner could. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: jay behrens
The difference between a PSA and SGC mistake is that SGC owns up to their mistakes. PSA tries to sweep it under the rug and make it go away until they end up in court. Just my observations of the 2 compaies. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Dan Bretta
Mr. Schwartz, The fact that you don't care whether the publicity for this stunt is positive or negative says a lot about your standing in this hobby in my eyes. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: T206Collector
I won't begrudge TJ for making money the best way he knows how, but it's kind of like naming rights for a stadium. The Yankees, who make oodles of dough, haven't changed the Stadium name to Adidas Park or Utz Potato Chip Field, though they could've scored big on that one. They understand the value in not doing so. SGC just graded the best Cracker Jack set in existence. Thankfully they knew better than to slab Uncle Joe Whomever on their holders for that set. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: dan mckee
PSA guarantees their cards as we all know |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Mike P.
PSA opened the floodgates on the pedigree thing. Anybody can pay a price to get their collections name on a slab. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: T206Collector
Now it is apparent that the Mr. X thing was just some silly service that is offered to anyone. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: jay behrens
We neede to get t-shirts with for the National, lol |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: warshawlaw
I think we ought to focus on the real absurdity here: "Mr. X" doesn't tell me jacks*** about provenance. For all we know, Mr. X is someone whose cards you wouldn't not want to advertise you own... |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Wesley
TJ's idea is creating discussion, but it cannot help the value of this card. I can't imagine the new owner wanting Mr. X's name on the holder. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Anonymous
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Scott Forrest
If I were buying a slabbed PSA card, all I would look for is an insert that isn't floating around too much and to be able to tell through the plastic that it isn't trimmed. The label itself is fairly meaningless. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: tbob
So does that mean you guys won't be bidding on my E98 Wagner on ebay which is slabbed from the "Friend of Bill Clinton Collection?" I'm hurt.... |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Greg Ecklund
It depends on what the meaning of the word "bid" is |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Darren_Duet
I agree with Barry. Initially and instinctively I felt the Mr. X label was just plain a bad idea. Now that I've let is soak, I know it is a bad idea. I think the card will sell for less in than an identical card in a PSA 4 holder without the Mr. X notation. Maybe a chance for us who don't buy holder's to get an elusive card at a great price. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: WP
TJ, |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: TJ Schwartz
My standing in the hobby? Pretty funny. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Scott Forrest
what a cardboard resume - everyone put your opinions back in your pockets. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: Darren J. Duet
Any press is good press. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: andy becker
this thread was started for self promotion purposes only....not to inform, educate, or discuss. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: andy becker
now scott. you do make me LOL. signing bobbleheads right next to mr mint! |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: leon
The reason I let this thread go is because if it's "newsworthiness." If something is news in the hobby chances are I will let it go. No different, in my mind, than the recent PSA thread. I will not let a lot of Buy/Sell/Trade stuff happen on the regular board though....not me, you, or anyone...now if I decide to sell my whole collection, or Hal does, or JC does, etc....then that could be an interesting thread....Sorry to have to personally make those calls but that's what I have to do....Hope everyone understands.....I try to opt for not censoring stuff first.......take care |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: andy becker
thanks leon. board is doing great, thanks a bunch. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: dan mckee
WOW! that is some resume! I am impressed. Who is this guy again???? If you have 100% feedback as a seller, that means you do not leave negatives for non-paying bidders. That is where most sellers get their negatives, in retaliation. |
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T206 Plank on PSA's website
Posted By: jackgoodman
A quick check with toolhaus shows he has left 1977 feedbacks, but not a single negative or neutral. How does he get only the good buyers/sellers? |
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