Cartwright Daguerreotype assessment ?? Question

Beercan collector · #1 08-30-2025, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Yup, I suppose we have all been duped--photo matching, facial recognition isn't a science its a joke and not reliable, spending big money on items claimed to be photo matched could still be fake--airports, government agencies paying money for computer software for facial recognitions .

Yup, good point - modern scans of live people is exactly the same as blurry 100 year old photos .

Yoda · #2 08-30-2025, 12:06 PM

Comiskey was very fond of fedora hats like the one he is wearing in the photo.

frankbmd · #3 08-30-2025, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Comiskey was very fond of fedora hats like the one he is wearing in the photo.

.... the fedoras don't cover the ears.

Directly · #4 08-30-2025, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Yup, good point - modern scans of live people is exactly the same as blurry 100 year old photos .

Yup, so some photo matching of say old jerseys, or autographs, photograph's maybe not be 100 percent positive authentic--the way I read some posts, photo matching, is only a opinion not a fact.

I'm still curious how can any photo expert determine any positive ID only with the ears -- are ears shapes the only critical parameter for facial recognition, to say open your cell phones.

bigfanNY · #5 08-31-2025, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Directly

Yup, so some photo matching of say old jerseys, or autographs, photograph's maybe not be 100 percent positive authentic--the way I read some posts, photo matching, is only a opinion not a fact.

I'm still curious how can any photo expert determine any positive ID only with the ears -- are ears shapes the only critical parameter for facial recognition, to say open your cell phones.

Ear shapes cannot be used to 100% identify a person. But since ears are fully formed at birth they can be used to 100% rule out a person. if in their known photos they are of one ear shape and you compare a photo of a person with another ear type.
And you are not trying to open a cell phone. You are trying to open someone's wallet to the tune of Fifty Thousand Dollars. I get it, you see some guy on Ebay posting old photos that he claims are famous ballplayers and you want in. So you have been posting for over a decade looking for someone to swindle. Despite having ample proof that your photo is not the 1881 Dabuque team and that it is not Charles Comiskey.
Eyes colors do not match
Ear shapes do not Match
Height doesn't match
Uniforms from known 1879 team don't match.
And to come here and cry about how all these facts stacked up are some how unfair to you is simply wrong.
You claimed in your previous thread that you were taking it to the 2025 National to sell / consign. Please tell us how many auction houses dealers and collectors turned you down? Let me guess, 100% of them. But you know it doesn't matter. All you need is one person to believe your lies and you cash in.

Directly · #6 09-01-2025, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfanNY

Ear shapes cannot be used to 100% identify a person. But since ears are fully formed at birth they can be used to 100% rule out a person. if in their known photos they are of one ear shape and you compare a photo of a person with another ear type.
And you are not trying to open a cell phone. You are trying to open someone's wallet to the tune of Fifty Thousand Dollars. I get it, you see some guy on Ebay posting old photos that he claims are famous ballplayers and you want in. So you have been posting for over a decade looking for someone to swindle. Despite having ample proof that your photo is not the 1881 Dabuque team and that it is not Charles Comiskey.
Eyes colors do not match
Ear shapes do not Match
Height doesn't match
Uniforms from known 1879 team don't match.
And to come here and cry about how all these facts stacked up are some how unfair to you is simply wrong.
You claimed in your previous thread that you were taking it to the 2025 National to sell / consign. Please tell us how many auction houses dealers and collectors turned you down? Let me guess, 100% of them. But you know it doesn't matter. All you need is one person to believe your lies and you cash in.

Everything this want-a-be expert wrote is pure B/S-- we do have one thing in common, we age, look in a mirror.
Ill stick to my relevant facts

The only thing this discussion has established is "Photo Matching" is purely just a opinion not a science, nothing more nothing less. A 50/50 pig in a poke

Beercan collector · #7 09-01-2025, 08:27 AM

I really don�t care I made a silly response to a silly agenda driven thread .
But Yeah it�s all a matter of opinion,
- There�s high probability opinions were many people agree likely true, buyers make the jump of faith and spend good money to obtain .
- There�s low probability opinions that no one agrees with and no one�s willing to waste money to obtain.
Anyway good luck with your �Comiskey� photo, you might take it to that airport with the expensive equipment and have it verified, Perhaps one day it�ll be the rarest and most valuable knife in the world

Directly · #8 09-01-2025, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Beercan collector

I really don’t care I made a silly response to a silly agenda driven thread .
But Yeah it’s all a matter of opinion,
- There’s high probability opinions were many people agree likely true, buyers make the jump of faith and spend good money to obtain .
- There’s low probability opinions that no one agrees with and no one‘s willing to waste money to obtain.
Anyway good luck with your “Comiskey” photo, you might take it to that airport with the expensive equipment and have it verified, Perhaps one day it’ll be the rarest and most valuable knife in the world

Yup, Probably will be just my legacy after where all gone. I know the deck is stacked against me, maybe not being in the click, buts that's okay with me. The wise folks posts understand if they lean one way or another, better to stay quite if afraid of negative repercussions. My opinion of bigfanNY opinions doesn't bother me in the least, a terrible comparisons between disbanded a 1879 team versus a later 1881 team. I'm imagine there is some correspondence between members to throw my opinion under the bus, but to the little collector folks here, never give up the ship if you think your right--fight-fight-fight--thank Tom

Directly · #9 09-01-2025, 03:06 PM

(All you need is one person to believe your lies and you cash in)

I've begun to sell my collection due to not getting any younger, more importantly my daughter has zero interest, she recommend I sell. I've already sold a few cards for a fair price. I will be receiving a offer on my " many hundreds" of unopened Sport card boxes inventory --bigfanNY I sleep very well at night, no dept that I couldn't pay off.

Just for the record--bigfanNY Im okay with you bashing my photo, but to say I'm looking to rip someone off and lie could be slanderous.

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