Kurt's Card Care

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You need to drink the card bro Kool Aid. It's all good I am telling you. LOL the very notion that we are at a place where people approve of treating cards with shit that needs to comply with OSHA hazardous materials disclosures. What a world.

To be fair, in industrial settings pretty much everything has to have an MSDS.
We had them for chromed steel cylinder rods.

No that using some witches brew of alcohol is good. Or what might be mineral spirits as "polish"

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I think that pertains to minimizing the hazard of inhaling it?

“Yes, but I didn’t inhale.”

[BioCRN]

SDS forms are both very specific and very generalized depending on what part of the SDS you're dealing with.

Technically, if spilled this cleaner should be cleaned with "non-combustible absorbent material, (e.g. sand, earth, diatomaceous earth, vermiculite) and place in container for disposal according to local / national regulations"

...realistically you'll clean it up with a paper towel, throw it in a trash can, and it will be of extremely little danger.

You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.

I guess we have lab-created cards now!

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by BioCRN

SDS forms are both very specific and very generalized depending on what part of the SDS you're dealing with.

Technically, if spilled this cleaner should be cleaned with "non-combustible absorbent material, (e.g. sand, earth, diatomaceous earth, vermiculite) and place in container for disposal according to local / national regulations"

...realistically you'll clean it up with a paper towel, throw it in a trash can, and it will be of extremely little danger.

You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.

Very good points. I would just like to add a few details.
The SDS should also have "% Ranges" of the hazardous chemicals such as 5-15%, It could or should list 'Water" or distilled water and that range. Also The non haz Proprietary ingredients may include the surfactant if they are non Haz. Most are Non-Haz but that too should show a " % range". All of them should add up to at least 100%. Still not giving up any formulas or trade secrets

If the alcohol content is 15% or greater, it would need to be classified as "UN1170 Ethanol Solutions, which is an EPA RCRA Hazardous in Section 14.
If Kurt wants to call it "Non-Haz", he has to prove it with a simple "Flashpoint" test from an accredited laboratory. It costs a whopping $50 bucks. Save on the meth and get the test is my advice.

If it flashes at 140F or lower, it's Flammable. 140F-160F it's "Combustible". Both are hazardous. It may qualify to ship DOT as a "Y" Limited Quantities to his customers.

Your almost there Kurt. Good luck. Hope OSHA wasn't too hard on you.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Imagine if he had to prove it wasn't hazardous to the card.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Lucas00

I like the part in the document where it says the chemical used should be in a well ventilated area. Not exactly the best conditions in a literal air tight sealed case with a centimeter of total space for air lol. How can you even argue with that.

The idiocy of this board has no bounds.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The idiocy of this board has no bounds.

Travis, have you ever made a meaningful or nice comment on n54?

You are a closet card cleaner and quite possibly a card trimmer (of course I have no proof, just very suspicious). I honestly don't know how you are still here. Leon's patience is something to behold.

If I owned this forum and somebody had as many posts as you with almost none of them being positive and the majority of them causing disputes you would've been warned and or removed months and months ago. Reflect on yourself.

You should go make a new forum and co found it with Kurt.

[campyfan39]

He gets jumped from all sides every time he posts. There are clearly some posters obsessed with him. I'd love to moderate a sit down with he and a few of them. It would be fun.

Sometimes, he throws flames because people talk down to him so much, and when he uses logic, they dismiss it. For example, chirping back to a clearly relevant point by saying something "has been frowned upon since the 1990s" is not a valid point in a debate.

I'm glad Leon allows open discussions/disagreements. I laughed when I saw this thread had been resurrected because I knew it would be off the rails again.

Originally Posted by Lucas00

Travis, have you ever made a meaningful or nice comment on n54?

You are a closet card cleaner and quite possibly a card trimmer (of course I have no proof, just very suspicious). I honestly don't know how you are still here. Leon's patience is something to behold.

If I owned this forum and somebody had as many posts as you with almost none of them being positive and the majority of them causing disputes you would've been warned and or removed months and months ago. Reflect on yourself.

You should go make a new forum and co found it with Kurt.

[Lucas00]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

He gets jumped from all sides every time he posts. There are clearly some posters obsessed with him. I'd love to moderate a sit down with he and a few of them. It would be fun.

Sometimes, he throws flames because people talk down to him so much, and when he uses logic, they dismiss it. For example, chirping back to a clearly relevant point by saying something "has been frowned upon since the 1990s" is not a valid point in a debate.

I'm glad Leon allows open discussions/disagreements. I laughed when I saw this thread had been resurrected because I knew it would be off the rails again.

I'm fine with arguing and seeing every side of things. But I don't like when it's somebody's entire persona, and is seemingly done on purpose just to get reactions. He will quote this denying that fact, but there's over 2000 posts of pure undeniable proof. It's not really hard to see why people argue and gang up on him, he wants us to do it and loves it, else why would he make everything into an argument against himself. Literally multi quoting entire threads saying why every single person is wrong. It's very strange.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Snowman

The idiocy of this board has no bounds.

Truer words have not been spoken....nor been more ironic.

[JollyElm]

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