Alex Rodriguez Thinks He Is Entitled

[ClementeFanOh]

Peter- you just can’t stay on topic, can you? Keep it between the lines? No sir, gotta be different…the topic HERE is A Rod, not “other players”. “Other players” aren’t lamenting one of their former teams’ lack of interest in retiring their numbers, in some feeble attempt to stay relevant. That’s A Rod, and this is somewhere in the neighborhood of his one thousandth display of jackassery. He was a carpetbagger his entire career and his stat line is an asterisk- all of it. Any defense of him is you just playing games. Trent King

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Peter- you just can’t stay on topic, can you? Keep it between the lines? No sir, gotta be different…the topic HERE is A Rod, not “other players”. “Other players” aren’t lamenting one of their former teams’ lack of interest in retiring their numbers, in some feeble attempt to stay relevant. That’s A Rod, and this is somewhere in the neighborhood of his one thousandth display of jackassery. He was a carpetbagger his entire career and his stat line is an asterisk- all of it. Any defense of him is you just playing games. Trent King

It was a perfectly fair question in response to Jay's, because it brought up the difficulty with evaluating anyone during the steroid era including ARod, but I am sorry it triggered your OCD about going off topic. Hope all is well with you.

[G1911]

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

[icurnmedic]

Arod seems to do some serious triggering, LOL.
He was still a generational talent, that happens to be a douche.
I think there are many of those out there, that likely weren’t/aren’t as talented.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

You know the answer. When a nice guy does it, they forgive it.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

You know the answer. When a nice guy does it, they forgive it.

I would never ask a leading question I damn well know the answer to is corruption, hypocrisy or indefensible double standards.

[bk400]

There's a lot to be said when a media- and image-savvy person like A Rod publicly expresses resentment for his number not being retired and, even worse, that someone who didn't end up having a great year got to wear his number.

That's exactly why his number hasn't been retired by the Yankees. I don't think it's either necessary or sufficient for a player to have the greatest individual stats to get their number retired by their former team. Look at Gooden and Strawberry for the Mets. On the other hand, if a sizable part of the fan base uses words like "douchebag" and "self-centered" to describe you, it's going to be an uphill battle. Why? Because the fans don't want to see the jersey of a self-centered douchebag hanging from their rafters.

[packs]

I don’t know why Pettitte got brought up. He pitched 16 seasons for the Yankees, won 5 titles, and was one of the most recognizable players on the championship teams. There were only two other Yankee pitchers with retired numbers when they retired his. He’s an all time Yankee. Alex Rodriguez was not.

[ClementeFanOh]

Good morning net54ers-

bk400- perfectly put.

Peter Spaeth- I've said it before, bears repeating. People who dive behind
words like "triggered" have surrendered their legitimacy at the starting gun.
The mere fact that I called out your extraordinarily short attention span
doesn't mean I'm triggered- it's called discernment, and mine is based on
example after example. Truly, I'm stunned you didn't shoehorn an insult
about SGC while you were attempting to move the goalposts-again- on a
topic. The topic is ARod, not Pettitte, "other guys", etc.

Bottom line- ripping on ARoid is FUN low hanging fruit, which is entirely on
him. His 12 years with NY produced 1 Series win. He consistently feuded
with their front office, was suspended an entire season, and generally made
everything he possibly could make, about him. He admitted to steroid use
as far back as 2001, and Biogenisis clearly coincided with his prime Yankee
years later. He was a constant distraction who cared only about himself. I'm
no Yankee fan- an understatement- but their history is rich enough that they
can say "thanks, no thanks" to retiring this clown's number.


Trent King

[G1911]

Originally Posted by G1911

The Yankees retired Andy Pettitte's number in 2015; years after it became public knowledge that Pettitte was a steroid user and got dragged into the legal problems of that time over it.

The Yankees determined that steroid use is not a disqualifier for number retirement, nor is bad publicity in regards to it.

So... why wouldn't A-Rod's be retired, if the Yankees will retire the numbers of Steroid users? He was a far better player than Pettitte.

Seems like common sense that he would, thus, both qualify and merit number retirement.

This is the innocuous post that made this board go crazy and our regular nutball spaz out. It is not even off topic at all, they just do not like it not participating in an approved circlejerk. It is about A-Rod. It is about the issues raised in the OP. It is 100% on topic, it's just not circlejerking his viewpoint. That is not what off-topic means lol

This is somehow still less stupid than half this guys previous public meltdowns, such as his anger at reading a post against literally lynching people one doesn't like. That one he probably won't ever be able to beat. The bar is just too high now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

He went nuts on me earlier for suggesting it was hard to evaluate ARod's numbers in context because we don't really know who was clean and not in the steroid era. OMG.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

He went nuts on me earlier for suggesting it was hard to evaluate ARod's numbers in context because we don't really know who was clean and not in the steroid era. OMG.

At least we aren’t that poor guy who just said he thought Al Kaline and Roberto Clemente were both great but he thought Kaline edged it and this nutter accused of being a cocaine addict for saying that. He is a hilarious combination of sheer stupidity and over the top insane anger. Can’t wait for the next time he goes apeshit and off topic over an innocuous statement he’s too mental to even read and understand. This moron started his vendetta with me over a tiny joke in a PWCC thread about PWCC’s fraud that sent him ballistic. At least get triggered over one of the 50 controversial things I’ve said here instead.

[ClementeFanOh]

Peter and 1911-

Boy, reality is just so uncooperative sometimes-

1) You 2 were in a lather at 1 in the morning (!!), the night before last over
my remarks. But I'm the "nut"- sounds like a comment right out of your
playbooks. Maybe I'm the one inside your heads? Nah, you're both too
esteemed for that, I'm just sure...

2) 1911- you need real psychological help. I'd recommend taking an extra
inhaler and wearing your nicest jorts for the sessions.

3) Life's really good, thanks for being so concerned. Cool start to the Series,
college football today, been acquiring cards and really enjoying the hobby.

4) Arod is still a turd. There's really nothing else to say- "It's only you and
me, and we just disagree". You are a waste of space.

Trent King