Pitch clock ends a game on automatic strike 3

[mrreality68]

Wow this is interesting and an unintended consequence of the pitch clock

The game

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2584258

Braves vs Redsox game ended to long to get in batters box resulted in automatic strike which was strike 3

[butchie_t]

Not a fan of this new rule. But, this is what is considered progress.

Butch

[BobbyStrawberry]

Yikes. Still not as bad as the zombie runner IMO.

[clydepepper]

I DO like the speed-up rules...game moves along quicker...


I think back to when the Braves had Bob Wickman...took forever even to get back on the mound.

I also remember Jeter holding up his arm to the ump on seemingly ever pitch.

I remember Nomar always tightening and tightening his batting gloves.

I remember watching Mike Hargrove earning his nickname, 'The Human Rain Delay'.

As and old southpaw, I love me some lefties, but am glad I never had to endure a game pitched by Eddie Plank.


The ghost runners, however, have got to go.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I DO like the speed-up rules...game moves along quicker...


I think back to when the Braves had Bob Wickman...took forever even to get back on the mound.

I also remember Jeter holding up his arm to the ump on seemingly ever pitch.

I remember Nomar always tightening and tightening his batting gloves.

I remember watching Mike Hargrove earning his nickname, 'The Human Rain Delay'.

As and old southpaw, I love me some lefties, but am glad I never had to endure a game pitched by Eddie Plank.


The ghost runners, however, have got to go.

The pitch clock could be a good thing. Everyone will have to get used to it hopefully they do in spring training
I would not like a game that actually count to be determined by the pitch clock
And I think the rule has change if possible I do not want a game to ever end on a call like this

[BobbyStrawberry]

Watching my first game of the year right now (Mets-Marlins) and the clock really does speed up the game. The whole thing seems rushed to me. It's going to take some time to get used to

[philliesfan]

A Game should never end like this. Maybe they should eliminate the clock in the ninth inning. This is horrible.

Imagine if you will.....this exact situation in game 7 of the World Series. That's ugly.

Bob

[BobC]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

A Game should never end like this. Maybe they should eliminate the clock in the ninth inning. This is horrible.

Imagine if you will.....this exact situation in game 7 of the World Series. That's ugly.

Bob

+1

That is one of the dumbest things I ever heard of. You end a game that never in over 150 years had a time limit and clock......because of a time limit and clock.

[Jim65]

If you don't want the game to end like that, then get your ass in the batters box. I'm glad the Umpires are enforcing the rule, the players will adjust and the game will be better for it.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Jim65

If you don't want the game to end like that, then get your ass in the batters box. I'm glad the Umpires are enforcing the rule, the players will adjust and the game will be better for it.

Plus 1. Hitters created this issue with their ridiculous routines between every single pitch.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

A Game should never end like this. Maybe they should eliminate the clock in the ninth inning. This is horrible.

Imagine if you will.....this exact situation in game 7 of the World Series. That's ugly.

Bob

That's why they're enforcing the rules strictly in spring training when the games don't count. By the time they get to the World Series, if the players haven't adjusted by then, they have no one to blame but themselves.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Plus 1. Hitters created this issue with their ridiculous routines between every single pitch.

Originally Posted by jayshum

That's why they're enforcing the rules strictly in spring training when the games don't count. By the time they get to the World Series, if the players haven't adjusted by then, they have no one to blame but themselves.

Not disagreeing with the rule. I like it if it helps speed up the game and does not take away from it.
Tried in minors and had good potential.

Just wondering in situational baseball from both the pitcher and hitters side of it like when men are on base especially in critical spots and as said above I just do not want a game to be ended on an automatic out or on the flip side an automatic ball either(ie bases loaded and full count on the batter)

[D. Bergin]

I wonder if they will relax the rules a bit in the Playoffs with higher stakes involved.

I don't believe there's ghost runners in the Playoffs, and in Hockey, they don't have shoot-outs in the Playoffs. You play until you score, or you fall down from exhaustion.

I have a feeling they're not too concerned about shortening games once Playoff/World Series baseball starts up. More time to sell commercial spots.

[BobbyStrawberry]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

I wonder if they will relax the rules a bit in the Playoffs with higher stakes involved.

I don't believe there's ghost runners in the Playoffs, and in Hockey, they don't have shoot-outs in the Playoffs. You play until you score, or you fall down from exhaustion.

I have a feeling they're not too concerned about shortening games once Playoff/World Series baseball starts up. More time to sell commercial spots.

It wouldn't surprise me. I can't think of a single person (other than maybe Manfred) who would be happy with that outcome

[RCMcKenzie]

The Astros v Nationals game just went 2 hours and 5 minutes. Is that what the fans wanted?

The people I know that don't like baseball won't watch for 10 minutes. I hope they get rid of the time clocks. Also, what are those giant white boxes on the infield?

[JollyElm]

Maybe team uniforms should be made by The Ringling Bros. to reflect what a clown show MLB is becoming.

[mrreality68]

still unsure about the time clock but after seeing it in many many spring training games and seeing how it is saving almost 30 minutes per game I am starting to believe it might work.

Still need to see it in various situations when games count and how it flows in late innings but regardless it is not part of the game.

But when the first controversy hits it should get interesting

[Jim65]

I love the pace of the games, it seems the players are adjusting too.

[D. Bergin]

Max Scherzer, who likes the new rules, looks like he's having fun in Spring Training strategizing and testing out what the umpires will allow, and what they won't.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...h-clock-limits

[D. Bergin]

Wandy Peralta - 20 second strikeout

https://www.mlb.com/video/wandy-pera...wenty-second-k

[Kutcher55]

Originally Posted by jim65

if you don't want the game to end like that, then get your ass in the batters box. I'm glad the umpires are enforcing the rule, the players will adjust and the game will be better for it.

+1000

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Watch game 1 of the 1968 series to see how fast Gibson and Lolich worked. Dick McAuliffe is lucky he didn't get one in the ear, having to literally pick up dirt and spit on his hands between EVERY pitch. But the second his ass was in the box the ball was coming. It's a shame the game has to legislate this, but man it is so much easier to watch when you don't have a minute to kill between each pitch!

[steve B]

And now they're saying a pitcher can't pitch until the batter is in the box and "aware" of the pitcher. Which is determined by the batter looking at the pitcher?!

Speed up, but not that much.

Everything they do to make the game "better" just effs it up more.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by steve B

And now they're saying a pitcher can't pitch until the batter is in the box and "aware" of the pitcher. Which is determined by the batter looking at the pitcher?!

Speed up, but not that much.

Everything they do to make the game "better" just effs it up more.

and they are adjusting and learning during spring break but I could see the umps screwing up some "awareness" and there being issues

[Hxcmilkshake]

I'm liking this so far. 16 run Yankee game took 3 hrs. 24 run game before that took the same.

I think they should go one more --- no mound warm ups for relievers unless due to injury.

Get out there and pitch!

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[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Hxcmilkshake

I'm liking this so far. 16 run Yankee game took 3 hrs. 24 run game before that took the same.

I think they should go one more --- no mound warm ups for relievers unless due to injury.

Get out there and pitch!

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no warm ups could lea to reliever injuries and if not warmed up bad pitches risk batter injuries.
As the clock is working let's keep it at that for now
I agree we need to do other things but warm ups are fine

[frankbmd]

Really naysayers.

I, for one, have learned how to use the Velcro fasteners on my batting gloves and they are designed not to slip after every pitch. I think the pitch clock proves this.

The first player that I remember that had to redo his Velcro after every pitch was Nomar Garciaparra. Over the years a large number of younger players have been convinced that this is necessary to remain in the big leagues.

I guess a lot of you fans and Net54 members enjoy playing with Velcro, but do the rest of us enjoy watching the ritual a hundred or more times in a game. I don’t think so.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by steve B

And now they're saying a pitcher can't pitch until the batter is in the box and "aware" of the pitcher. Which is determined by the batter looking at the pitcher?!

Speed up, but not that much.

Everything they do to make the game "better" just effs it up more.

I believe the batter has to be in the box and "aware" by 8 seconds left.

There's going to be a lot of cat and mousing and strategizing going on.

Some batters will be stepped out of the batters box, and will set just before 8 seconds, and some pitchers will try and get the ball out of their hands as quickly as possible if they see the batter set at 19 seconds.

I've been to lots of Minor League games with a pitch clock, and I never really noticed it being much of a factor at all.

That said, minor league games have always been played at a brisker pace then MLB games. Lots less arguing balls & strikes, and aside from some colorful clips on Youtube, there's much less arguing with the umps in general...even on very obvious bad calls. Very little screwing around.

It was almost always...get these guys playing time, get the games done as quick as possible, and move on to the next town.

I think there will be lots more strategizing just to get the tiniest edge possible at the Major League level.

What's also great about Minor League ball? I've yet to see a Neil Diamond impersonator between innings of a Major League game, or a wrestling event in tandem with an MLB game. Friday night Fireworks shows are also pretty great.

[nolemmings]

Frank, I think you're forgetting the enormous amount of torque generated in the hands when a batter leans forward and takes a pitch. It's luck if the gloves survive the AB at all, as the velcro is nearly shredded from that much force. There are not many of us still around who can appreciate what happens when you have too much tork:

[BobC]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Really naysayers.

I, for one, have learned how to use the Velcro fasteners on my batting gloves and they are designed not to slip after every pitch. I think the pitch clock proves this.

The first player that I remember that had to redo his Velcro after every pitch was Nomar Garciaparra. Over the years a large number of younger players have been convinced that this is necessary to remain in the big leagues.

I guess a lot of you fans and Net54 members enjoy playing with Velcro, but do the rest of us enjoy watching the ritual a hundred or more times in a game. I don’t think so.

Did you ever get the chance to see Mike Hargrove play? He didn't get dubbed with the nickname "the Human Rain Delay" for naught.

[frankbmd]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c70i_OlLU2c

Let's see your Hargrove video Bob

[BobC]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c70i_OlLU2c

Let's see your Hargrove video Bob

Here you go. The announcer's comments are golden!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...BC55&FORM=VIRE

If you listen till near the end of the video, not sure if that is Vin Scully or not, but the one announcer notes how Hargrove was once timed at 7-1/2 minutes for just one at bat against Jim Palmer. Think about that. If he had four similar at bats in one game, that is an entire half hour of the game just for Hargrove batting.

Top that!

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by BobC

Here you go. The announcer's comments are golden!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...BC55&FORM=VIRE

If you listen till near the end of the video, not sure if that is Vin Scully or not, but the one announcer notes how Hargrove was once timed at 7-1/2 minutes for just one at bat against Jim Palmer. Think about that. If he had four similar at bats in one game, that is an entire half hour of the game just for Hargrove batting.

Top that!

That was Bob Costas. Yes, I remember all of that too. Good riddance to those antics!

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by BobC

Here you go. The announcer's comments are golden!

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...BC55&FORM=VIRE

If you listen till near the end of the video, not sure if that is Vin Scully or not, but the one announcer notes how Hargrove was once timed at 7-1/2 minutes for just one at bat against Jim Palmer. Think about that. If he had four similar at bats in one game, that is an entire half hour of the game just for Hargrove batting.

Top that!

Wow never knew that and amazing
Thanks for sharing

[BobC]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

That was Bob Costas. Yes, I remember all of that too. Good riddance to those antics!

Thanks, don't know why, but I kept thinking he sounded like Scully to me.
LOL

[timzcardz]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

Frank, I think you're forgetting the enormous amount of torque generated in the hands when a batter leans forward and takes a pitch. It's luck if the gloves survive the AB at all, as the velcro is nearly shredded from that much force. There are not many of us still around who can appreciate what happens when you have too much tork:

I'm a believer.

[mrreality68]

actually stolen bases may become a renewed focus. Between the larger bases and the pitch clock it seems that in spring training there is a lot more stolen bases and stolen base attempts.
Seems that the base runners are using the pitch clock for timing their steels as well as the rules limiting the throw overs to the bases.

I would enjoy if "small ball" makes a bit of a come back