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With all the forensic analyses the fake Wagner went through in order to definitively, 100% conclusively determine it to be a fake (thickness derived from CT scan, microscopic printing analysis, etc.), I have to believe that any really high-dollar card would have to get a similar level of attention to detail by a respectable TPG. Zero possibility a fake gets through that. I highly doubt a lower echelon card, however, gets anywhere close to that kind of analysis.
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As it is, cards are inspected carefully and as most submitters use microscopic computer cameras to blow up cards for corner inspection and flaws, I assume the graders do as well. They are fairly inexpensive. The improvements really need to be removing opinions or a good or bad day for a grader. The human element is the flaw in the sauce for the huge variable grades shown by resubmitters.
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At the international stamp show in 2006 they had a "roadshow" sort of thing. Not so much roadshow as an expert there who would give an opinion about one or two stamps.
I brought a couple, One I was pretty sure was a good one, and one I thought was great when I bought it but eventually had serious doubts but wasn't sure. Total time for the expert to do the off the cuff opinion? Under 2 minutes total. Probably under 1 minute, but I wasn't timing it. The explaining took longer. The good/bad news was that I was right on both, a big confidence boost. Better still, the one that was good was very good, and now has a nearly required certificate(done much later) and the one I had doubts about was bought at about retail for what it really is. So aside from as others have said, being showy, a card likely doesn't get extra scrutiny even though it should. I've often thought the grades given Wagners in general are very generous. Look at most of them and think if it was a common would it have the same grade. |
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Thanks all, appreciate the info.
Shocking they won't do it (as a standard). I believe some NET54 members have said they won't grade their cards and packs due to not seeing it through the process. |
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As a good general rule you want to keep separation between the person doing the grading/authentication and the person having it done.
That eliminates a lot of potential problems with influence. |
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Ya know...
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..ya know , over the years , I heard things ; I heard things. . |
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