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[inceptus]

I mentioned this in a previous post, but I had a similar outcome sending a raw OJ to SGC for grading— it cracked down the middle when it was flattened out in the slab.

The good news is that SGC handled it in a very non-jackass manner— they called me when it happened and offered what I thought was fair compensation…




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[67airborne]

Originally Posted by inceptus

I mentioned this in a previous post, but I had a similar outcome sending a raw OJ to SGC for grading— it cracked down the middle when it was flattened out in the slab.

The good news is that SGC handled it in a very non-jackass manner— they called me when it happened and offered what I thought was fair compensation…




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Thank you for your reply. As disappointing as it is, it’s nice to also see an explanation that makes sense. And the lesson learned here is when dealing with theses types of photos, Once flattened in a holder it’s best to leave it there.

+1 to the scammers and crooks out there. Get a life.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

That might very well explain it.

Is it best to attempt to flatten these out very gently over time before submitting, or just leave them be? If it doesn't flatten, don't slab, anyway. They're over 130 years old and I have to imagine that most are brittle after so long.

After handling so many of these, one would think the companies would know which ones need to be kept far, far away from their slabbing machines to save everyone a similar headache.

...but it doesn't explain why nothing happened to the OP's when originally encased in its former slab. Is there more free space between the SGC tuxedo sandwich? Did you notice any warping in the card when housed in the SGC slab? Yes, it's really too bad you didn't retain a photo. Have you scoured the internet on the off chance that an image of it can be discovered?

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I'd nominate someone in the national "bag of money" scandal, but I'm still not clear on who the idiot is in that story.

[Fred]

I've always wondered whether OJs that have a large curl to them would be damaged if placed in a slab. Now I know. I guess it doesn't surprise me too much. The only thing I can think of is that the card crossed over to the 4.5 grade (before it was encapsulated). During the encapsulation the card cracked.

The only logical explanation is that the TPG personnel didn't notice the issue and shipped it back. I thought the TPGs took pictures when they grade the cards now. If so, have them review the picture and then as them if they would have actually given a 4.5 grade to a card that was creased like that. They would have to conclude that it occurred after the encapsulation.

TPGs should have enough experience to determine if a curled card like that could be damaged, after all, doesn't PSA see more cards than any other TPG? Shouldn't the have some expertise in the field, by now?

It'd be interesting to see how this plays out with PSA.

[Casey2296]

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

[inceptus]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

That’s an interesting point. It came to me in a penny sleeve/top loader when I purchased it, and I transferred it to a new sleeve/top loader and sent to SGC the next day. I’m assuming it had been stored in a non-flat manner for years, so between my shipping to SGC and the slabbing, it was too much sudden trauma for this particular card.


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[G1911]

Originally Posted by inceptus

That’s an interesting point. It came to me in a penny sleeve/top loader when I purchased it, and I transferred it to a new sleeve/top loader and sent to SGC the next day. I’m assuming it had been stored in a non-flat manner for years, so between my shipping to SGC and the slabbing, it was too much sudden trauma for this particular card.


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I have had this happen too. I had a number of curled actress cards on the same stock as an N172 in top loaders, and they never had a problem. There was enough space and play in a top loader to not crack it. I traded the duplicates to a pal who sent one in for grading, and it was ruined like this in the process.

I now store curled N cards without any individual pockets, in team bags with tons of room and make no effort to flatten my actresses.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Re: the curled card
Don't TPGs require you send them cards in a penny sleeve and card saver? which would already have flattened the card. It's unfortunate to see such a nice card get damaged, I'm glad sgc made you whole.

If I were going to have something crossed over, I'd request that the card remain encapsulated until the TPG could determine if the card would cross over at a minimum grade and do not remove it unless the card will meet that minimum grade. Wouldn't it suck to have an SGC "8" and then have PSA drop it down to a "6".

Edited to add - that's just a crying shame about that Adonis OJ.

[Yoda]

I nominate Ebay for their boneheaded authentication scheme.

[Casey2296]

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

[babraham]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

Ha, agreed!

[Dead-Ball-Hitter]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'm going with Slapnicker on sheer entertainment value.

LOL I’m with you Phil

[todeen]

Originally Posted by inceptus

I mentioned this in a previous post, but I had a similar outcome sending a raw OJ to SGC for grading— it cracked down the middle when it was flattened out in the slab.

The good news is that SGC handled it in a very non-jackass manner— they called me when it happened and offered what I thought was fair compensation…




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I knew these cards were light sensitive but I didn't know they were fragile. I didn't know flattening them could Crack them. You taught me something new. Although I'm very sorry for your bad luck. That would make me sick if it was mine.

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