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For example, look at the dip, curl, or whatever you want to call it, just to the right of the part in his hair as you are looking at the photos. Those are clearly not exactly the same. If you look at other aspects of the two photos, for instance the contour/outline of Plank's left cheek, they are again clearly not exactly the same either. Or look at the angles or curves of Plank's shoulders in both photos, again they are not the same. Or look at the eyebrow/shadow over Plank's right eye, the image in one is more rounded, but flatter in the other. And so on.
Last edited by BobC; 11-20-2022 at 08:20 PM. |
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They are the same. Keep in mind one is an actual photo and one is a litho rendering of that photo that can contain changes or enhancements.
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These images were also used for the 1906 Lincoln Publishing postcards.
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Agree with Hank and Jeff. Same image, but higher resolution of the photo brings out details not readily visible in the litho.
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I fully understand touching up and resolution in creating a litho can cause some differences, but as much as there are between those two side by side images? Why for example would they have made some of the changes to the shape of his hair in some places? The photo on the left has more highlights and details, but why would they then in the photo on the right remove some of the curves/curls in the shape of his hair? Look at the hair in what would be the far upper left-hand side of Plank's head. The photo on the left shows two indentations, bumps, curls, whatever you want to call them, on the outside edge of his hair on the left-hand side of his face/head, while the litho image on the right only shows one. Is that a normal type of difference occurring when a litho is being made from a photo, to show some bumps/curls, but then remove or straighten out others? Last edited by BobC; 11-20-2022 at 10:55 PM. |
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Very cool piece of history and amazingly in great shape for its age
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Thanks everyone for your help. Has anyone seen this particular composite photo before? I can't find it anywhere. I do agree that these are the original photos of the W600s.
I found the 1902 Horner Large Composite at REA. I also found the Macintire Waddell portrait using the same image that sold at Leland's but that's about it. |
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You guys are probably right. It's obviously the same pose/sitting, but I can't help noticing all those subtle differences. Please forgive my bit of OCD. LOL
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No problem at all, Bob, it's what a forum is all about, throwing in our two cents worth to try to try to add to hobby knowledge. You made me look more closely at them, otherwise I wouldn't have noticed the markings.
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Of course, when prominent/celebrity people like Plank would go to a photographer to have their picture taken to be added onto team composites or otherwise included in/with other projects, wouldn't it make a lot of sense for the photographer to actually take a few photos of the subject, in case something goes wrong with the initial picture/negative or during the developing process? That way, if some accident happened, they wouldn't have to contact the subject and wait for them to come back in and re-shoot their picture to finish the team composite, or whatever. And if so, is it not also possible since there may have been multiple pictures/negatives available from the same session, the original photographer may have sent or forwarded copies/negatives of the additional photos to others for inclusion in other projects (such as creating a lithograph), and not necessarily sent/provided the exact same photo they had already used in something else, like that team composite? In such a case, the photos/images would be virtually identical because they were all taken at the same photo session, but there could still be some subtle differences since they wouldn't actually be the same exact same photos after all. Just thinking out loud. |
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