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Old 11-09-2022, 09:03 PM
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When you factor in all the walks and look at the absurd on base percentages, a few of Ted's lesser publicized seasons.
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When you factor in all the walks and look at the absurd on base percentages, a few of Ted's lesser publicized seasons.
It not necessarily a lesser publicized season, but people should have been interviewed for mob ties in 1942. He wins a triple crown and Joe Gordon with subpar stats wins MVP?

Criminal.

Well he got robbed by DiMaggio the year before, so maybe he got used to it.
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It not necessarily a lesser publicized season, but people should have been interviewed for mob ties in 1942. He wins a triple crown and Joe Gordon with subpar stats wins MVP?

Criminal.

Well he got robbed by DiMaggio the year before, so maybe he got used to it.


Anyone who hits .406 and doesn't win the MVP HAS to be the most underrated.
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Old 11-28-2022, 03:32 PM
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I was looking through Cobb's career and his 1927 season was insane. He was 40 years old and scored 100 runs, stole 22 bases and hit 357.
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I was looking through Cobb's career and his 1927 season was insane. He was 40 years old and scored 100 runs, stole 22 bases and hit 357.
Yes it was. Amazing player and some insane years he had
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Old 11-29-2022, 05:35 AM
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Honus Wagner in 1908. He led the NL in BA, SLG, OPS, OPS+, H, 2B, 3B, RBI, SB and TB. He was 2nd in HR and Runs. He was 2 HR and 1 run scored short of leading the league in every major offensive category. He did this while playing shortstop in a pitcher's park. His season is underrated because other than his 11.5 WAR, his raw numbers don't stand out. 1908 was the lowest run scoring season of the 20th century. Because of this his season was worth 59 win shares. Babe Ruth's highest win shares for a season was 55.
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Perhaps not THE most underrated, but certainly, two of the most poorly timed best seasons were Billy Williams' 1970 & 1972 seasons.

He just happened to have his best two seasons the same year the Greatest Cather Ever had his.

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When you factor in all the walks and look at the absurd on base percentages, a few of Ted's lesser publicized seasons.
I was looking at some of Mantle's years, his stats from 1957 (the year after he won the Triple Crown and MVP) was pretty amazing. His HRs were down, only 34, but a lot of that was because he wasn't getting pitches. 146 walks!

He batted .365 with a .512 OBP. On base over half the time! A .665 SLG and a 1.177 OPS - the highest of his career. Great season!

Then I looked at all those incredible numbers and realized none of them were bolded - aside from the walks, Mick didn't lead the league in any of those stats.

That's because in 1957, at 38 years old, Ted Williams hit .388 with a .524 OBP and a .731 SLG. His OPS was 1.257! Teddy Ballgame's 1957 year was incredible.

In fact, if you take out the Nego League numbers and the cheaters, Ted's 1.257 OPS is the 2nd highest non-Babe OPS all-time, after only Ted's 1941 season.
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I'm not sure that it's exactly underrated (at least not in 19th century circles), but it's not talked about nearly enough. Tip O'Neill's 1887 season was absolutely out of this world INSANE.
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I'm not sure that it's exactly underrated (at least not in 19th century circles), but it's not talked about nearly enough. Tip O'Neill's 1887 season was absolutely out of this world INSANE.
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Tip could also pitch. He seems to be forgotten for being in the American Association. I believe he has never gotten a single vote for the hall of fame.
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