Mike Trout's injury is starting to seem serious

[G1911]

Trout has played in 12 MLB seasons. 10 are needed for the Hall.

I said he played "8 real seasons", because has number of incomplete seasons.

In 2011 he had 135 plate appearances and hit .220 as a debut.

2020 was a short season and he played 53 games.

In 2021 he played in only 36 games.

In 2022 he has played in 79 games, and appears to be done for the year.

12-4 equals 8 full seasons.

If people could simply read what is actually written, this wouldn't need to be broken down.

[frankbmd]

I'm not ashamed of my rabbit hole Bob. It never crossed my mind that you were asking for anything other than a medical opinion. Given the content of your voluminous "taxing" posts, I am quite surprised that you would have expected anything else.

I have purchased one Trout baseball card which I gave to a grandson. I'm am generally disinterested in threads concerning who should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I could care less. Trout's current situation will be resolved one way or the other regardless of the consensus opinion of Net54. Five years from now we will all know more about the impact of his condition on his career and this thread will be long forgotten.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

I'm not ashamed of my rabbit hole Bob. It never crossed my mind that you were asking for anything other than a medical opinion. Given the content of your voluminous "taxing" posts, I am quite surprised that you would have expected anything else.

I have purchased one Trout baseball card which I gave to a grandson. I'm am generally disinterested in threads concerning who should or shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. I could care less. Trout's current situation will be resolved one way or the other regardless of the consensus opinion of Net54. Five years from now we will all know more about the impact of his condition on his career and this thread will be long forgotten.

If he just wanted your opinion as a collector and fan why the preface to the question at all? We're all collectors and fans. Certainly a fair reading.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

Trout has played in 12 MLB seasons. 10 are needed for the Hall.

I said he played "8 real seasons", because has number of incomplete seasons.

In 2011 he had 135 plate appearances and hit .220 as a debut.

2020 was a short season and he played 53 games.

In 2021 he played in only 36 games.

In 2022 he has played in 79 games, and appears to be done for the year.

12-4 equals 8 full seasons.

If people could simply read what is actually written, this wouldn't need to be broken down.

I agree with you here, and was a reason i used 8 in the hypothetical and when i was 'corrected' i didnt want to get in the back and forth

[G1911]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I agree with you here, and was a reason i used 8 in the hypothetical and when i was 'corrected' i didnt want to get in the back and forth

The transcript demonstrates you very much did not; you used it as 8 total seasons.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by G1911

The transcript demonstrates you very much did not; you used it as 8 total seasons.

when i stated i was citing 8 from a poster, i clarified where I received the 8 from.,...you can see it quoted with 'real seasons' from YOUR quote

i did use the term total 8 but was in the context of 8 real seasons , i didnt come up with 8 out of the blue.. it was from the prior post as I stated i cited..

so yes sorry used the wrong term initially but when used your quote of 'real seasons' i thought people understood.....Thus the trancript would demonstrate the correction.....take away all of my babe ruth cards for my initial use of the term...

[RCMcKenzie]

Is Carlos Gonzalez a HOFer if he retires tomorrow? Baseball Reference has him as a comp as a "Similar Batter" to Trout. I mostly follow the Astros and the AL, so I had never heard of Gonzalez until I looked up Trout's comps today (JD Drew, David Justice, Wally Berger, etc.) Mike Trout is more of a baseball card phenomenon. Are Gonzalez's cards worth a lot of money? Anyway, best of luck to Trout.

[G1911]

CarGo: .285/.343/.500/112 OPS+

Trout: .303/.416/.584/176 OPS+

[Mark17]

When people talk about his legacy, I sort of think that the main thing is that it's the man's life, and the question should be, how does he want to live the next few years.

If he loves to play baseball, maybe he'd rather continue to play, even if his production was mediocre and his "legacy" was being diminished. If it was me, my first concern would be health, second would be, what do I want to do, and somewhere after that would be the legacy thing.

In other words, I think fans, who have plenty of ballplayers past, present, and future to talk about and collect, care more about legacy than Mike Trout himself should. There is so much more to the man's life than the numbers he is putting in the record books. If he loves the game and being active in it, that's more important to him than what his career WAR or whatever will be.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by RCMcKenzie

Is Carlos Gonzalez a HOFer if he retires tomorrow? Baseball Reference has him as a comp as a "Similar Batter" to Trout. I mostly follow the Astros and the AL, so I had never heard of Gonzalez until I looked up Trout's comps today (JD Drew, David Justice, Wally Berger, etc.) Mike Trout is more of a baseball card phenomenon. Are Gonzalez's cards worth a lot of money? Anyway, best of luck to Trout.

The similarity scores listed on Baseball Reference for still active players is pretty head-scratching. You notice Mike Trout's name is nowhere to be found on JD Drews, David Justice, Carlos Gonzalez, Wally Bergers pages.

As another example Aaron Judge has Miguel Sano and Bob Cerv listed on his Top 10 similar batters section. Better to just throw at a random dart board or pick names out of hat.

Best to just skip to the "Similar Batters through 29", and "Most Similar by Ages" sections.

[RCMcKenzie]

I think it's a fun tool to generate names, if not really a scientific one. I noticed Darryl Strawberry popped-up on Justice's page, and Trout's page. Strawberry was going to be the greatest hitter of all-time, and was hyped even more than Trout.

To me, all these guys were stars. I can't figure out why I don't remember Cargo. He had an awesome 2010 season at Coors. I certainly recognize Helton, Tulowitzki and Fowler's names. It must be that I knew who he was in 2010, but can't recall that memory.