The 1952 Topps Mantle is Overpriced and Over-hyped

[steve B]

Originally Posted by jchcollins

Maybe true now, as it was true then - depending on your perspective. How many desirable hobby items, money aside - are truly scarce to the point where you can't find one even if you have the cash to pony up? I'm not a prewar guy per se, but I know that most items in this realm that people on this board are going to be concerned about are prewar items. So there is that.

But that aside, there are plenty of postwar vintage cards that aren't truly rare or scarce by the factual definition of those words that still sell for big $ and have for decades now. I'm guessing Mike Wheat eventually got comfortable with that notion based on what I know of him in the hobby.

Reminds me of the article that came out I'm guessing at some point close to this one of the guy who burned his '52 Mantle in a trash bin with a bunch of other cards in protest over the MLB strike of 1981. I'm guessing if that guy lived for much longer after he did that, he lived to regret it.

A dealer being comfortable with a card and its hype and overpricing shouldn't be a surprise, that's just how things are.

But he's not wrong, aside from the hype, that double print really doesn't have much going for it.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by steve B

A dealer being comfortable with a card and its hype and overpricing shouldn't be a surprise, that's just how things are.

But he's not wrong, aside from the hype, that double print really doesn't have much going for it.

I show the pictures of it to my wife every time it's featured prominently in a new auction catalog (so like once a week). She still doesn't remember who he is but refers to it as the card of that guy who looks like he's got some kind of intellectual deficit, so I guess aesthetically it's not his best image.

[MattyC]

I get a chuckle every time someone goes out of their way to try and slight the hobby's most widely desired postwar card. The acidic haters might as well rage against the rising and setting of the sun. If you don't like or revere it or the player, move the hell along and spend your time on whatever it is you like to collect. That said if Mantle triggers somebody and they get off on masochistically triggering themselves, I got a lot of Mantles for your eye sockets.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I get a chuckle every time someone goes out of their way to try and slight the hobby's most widely desired postwar card. The acidic haters might as well rage against the rising and setting of the sun. If you don't like or revere it or the player, move the hell along and spend your time on whatever it is you like to collect. That said if Mantle triggers somebody and they get off on masochistically triggering themselves, I got a lot of Mantles for your eye sockets.

You did read the title of the thread right? Speaking of Move the hell along.

Also, look up what overhyped means before sounding like a clueless fanboy. Sometimes those guys make me almost wonder if Mantle didn't save the Yankees a bundle by playing every position at once.

Reality is that it's a double print. By definition twice as common as all but the other two 52 High number double prints.

By your logic that being super popular means it's the GREATEST EVER...
McDonalds must make the best burgers, they've sold billions. so many they stopped putting number son the signs years ago.

[MattyC]

Keep on hating. The card will always be desirable. Yes, we all know it was a double print-- that doesn't seem to have affected its price, demand, or even scarcity in centered state. Clueless fanboy-- more like a fan of a great player who laughs at bitter trolls like you who have nothing better to do that hate on Mantle and one of the top cards in the hobby. Keep screaming, "Double print," and maybe one day that factor won't be utterly moot. You say Macdonalds, I'll say Mercedes. They're not uncommon on the street, but desirable.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Keep on hating. The card will always be desirable. Yes, we all know it was a double print-- that doesn't seem to have affected its price, demand, or even scarcity in centered state. Clueless fanboy-- more like a fan of a great player who laughs at bitter trolls like you who have nothing better to do that hate on Mantle and one of the top cards in the hobby. Keep screaming, "Double print," and maybe one day that factor won't be utterly moot. You say Macdonalds, I'll say Mercedes. They're not uncommon on the street, but desirable.

You are capable of understanding that desirability, Price, demand etc are not mutually exclusive with overrated right?

Or are you one of the ones that thinks the only thing that matters is money?

[GregC]

Originally Posted by steve B

You did read the title of the thread right? Speaking of Move the hell along.

Also, look up what overhyped means before sounding like a clueless fanboy. Sometimes those guys make me almost wonder if Mantle didn't save the Yankees a bundle by playing every position at once.

Reality is that it's a double print. By definition twice as common as all but the other two 52 High number double prints.

By your logic that being super popular means it's the GREATEST EVER...
McDonalds must make the best burgers, they've sold billions. so many they stopped putting number son the signs years ago.

Keyboard tough guy alert!

[JackR]

Per Leon’s mantra that every thread deserves a card…

[jingram058]

The fact is, for whatever reason(s) it took off. Right alongside the Wagner t206. Above anything Ruth, playing days or otherwise, Cobb or whoever. It just is what it is, and it ain't coming down. Come Hell or high water.

[irv]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I get a chuckle every time someone goes out of their way to try and slight the hobby's most widely desired postwar card. The acidic haters might as well rage against the rising and setting of the sun. If you don't like or revere it or the player, move the hell along and spend your time on whatever it is you like to collect. That said if Mantle triggers somebody and they get off on masochistically triggering themselves, I got a lot of Mantles for your eye sockets.

Originally Posted by MattyC

Keep on hating. The card will always be desirable. Yes, we all know it was a double print-- that doesn't seem to have affected its price, demand, or even scarcity in centered state. Clueless fanboy-- more like a fan of a great player who laughs at bitter trolls like you who have nothing better to do that hate on Mantle and one of the top cards in the hobby. Keep screaming, "Double print," and maybe one day that factor won't be utterly moot. You say Macdonalds, I'll say Mercedes. They're not uncommon on the street, but desirable.

Well said.
I've read these before and have concluded that those who don't own one, and likely never will, are the ones who are the most negatively voiced about it.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by GregC

Keyboard tough guy alert!

If we meet at a show just remind me and I'll say to you in person the card is overrated. Because it is.