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I lived in the DC area where they ran TV ads regularly to advocate stopping at red lights. The fact that it's advertised is more a statement about the group the ads are targeting, not whether it works or not.
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Carter, note the technique of just repeating the same talking points/slogans as though they were facts and responding to the facts by declaring them lies. It's so textbook. Closed loop thinking. The Bible is true because it says so in the Bible. Anyone who disagrees with me is brainwashed. If you reason like this you can be right 100 percent of the time and probably even delude yourself into thinking so.
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I've posted this before...My daughter is a pharmacist and works in the emergency room of a hospital in Upstate New York. 80% of the patients that are in the hospital ICU are not vaccinated. 75 to 80% of the people that are dying are not vaccinated. Our County Executive (a Republican) does a facebook video every Tuesday and Thursday on the covid cases in the County. With consistency 75 to 80% of the people who are dying from Covid are not vaccinated and the vaccinated people that are dying are almost all older than 70.
I know 2 people personally (both in their 40's) that died of Covid recently....both were not vaccinated. They both spent almost a month in the emergency room on a ventilator...a miserable way to spend the last 4 weeks of your life. Their family members are fine. I'll continue to listen to facts...not the gibberish misinformation that is being put out on the internet. I really wonder about the intelligence of people trying to win an argument on a sports forum with cut and paste articles that fit their own agenda and beliefs. Do you really think you are changing anyone's mind? Jeff G. Last edited by ibuysportsephemera; 01-26-2022 at 08:15 PM. |
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Did you notice how the Canadian leapfrogged over my post? Could it be that the facts disprove his contentions?
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These techniques are very common actually, by no means limited to this issue. Seen the playbook many times.
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Covid cases and deaths and now greater post vaccine than what they were pre-vaccine. Tremendous vaccines they are! Did you hear about the variant, Ba.2 subvariant or something along those lines that just came out? Quick, rush out and get your 4th booster that is the same as the first two shots then hide under your beds until it passes waiting for the next one to arrive.
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"Ignorance is bliss." Thomas Gray, 1768.
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Can you please explain to me how you know this? Can you please post one legit source showing that your chances of getting covid increase when you get the vaccine? And I don't consider Tucker to be legit.
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My wife went to private school with Tucker (and Billy Bush!). That school has completely distanced themselves from him and his verbal diarrhea.
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The Canadian Forrest Gump is like a condom. If we just use what he says we will be safe.
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The data (unless you think all of it is fake, as he apparently does) clearly shows that vaccines(therapeutics) dramatically reduce one's chance of serious illness and death compared to not being vaccinated. And that has held up for Omicron. Does every single doctor and scientist agree, no, but there isn't a single thing everyone agrees on, so that doesn't prove shit. Does it reduce your chances to zero, no, so if that is your yardstick (or not getting a measurable case at all), then sure one can say the vaccines don't work very well. But I think most people care less about having a cold than dying, just a guess.
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How does anyone know that? Also, like what some now silenced, shunned and ridiculed doctor's and other medical professionals were saying about these shots and what it does to your natural immune system, especially after receiving the boosters, seems to now also be gaining some traction again. Imagine that. Fauci has discussed this a number of times including in the video I recently posted. He mentions how vaccines can cause confusion within the natural immune system. It can be helpful as the body wants to focus on a different version of the virus where the vaccine generated response goes after the new variant but can also be bad. Very early on in the White House briefings when the mRNA vaccines were first being mentioned he stated how the biggest fear is a vaccine that creates a hyper immune response. There are several medical phrases for this. The fact is we have given a vaccine that has little to long term tests on humans to billions of people worldwide. Fauci said in that same video I posted it would take a decade or more to develop and test the mRNA technology with massive funding. He stated this in October 2019. The CBC and others are now claiming to avoid or wait getting a booster shot if you've had omicron. Why is that? Why does anyone need a vax if they had the disease they were already infected with? "If you got Omicron post-vaccination, medical experts advise not to rush out for a booster shot" "The unprecedented surge of cases has led to cancelled surgeries, staffing shortages in the health-care system and record-breaking hospitalization rates — alongside plenty of less serious bouts of illness, including among those who've been fully vaccinated against COVID-19" https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/omicr...ster-1.6312471 https://montrealgazette.com/news/loc...quebecers-told Were you aware that 2 FDA officials resigned because of Biden's plans to roll out booster shots against their wishes? https://www.pennlive.com/nation-worl...ter-shots.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/31/u...ter-shots.html People are scared half to death of a disease that they have a 99% chance of surviving. People are panicking and heading to the hospital if they have a runny nose, a headache, or think that is what they need to do. And people wonder why our hospitals might be over run!?!? Calls to 911 are over the top as well. It is complete insanity, or as the now shunned and ridiculed co-inventor of the MNRA vaccine said, it is mass formation psychosis. Did you see what is going on over in Israel, one of the most vaccinated countries in the world who had already rolled out a 4th booster sometime ago? Think it's possible that it is the vaccines themselves that is causing this or do you and others still think the vaccines work? "Average number of new infections reported in Israel each day reaches new high: Now reporting more than 75,600 daily. COVID-19 infections in Israel are at their peak — the highest daily average reported — now at 75,603 new infections reported each day" https://graphics.reuters.com/world-c...tories/israel/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/daily-...l-time-record/ Anyways, there is no sense carrying with this as it seems some just want to insult and ridicule (not you) rather than look/read what I have posted, so with that, that's it for me in this thread. It's amazing and bewildering to me, that despite what I've posted and what we now know, that people still trust the system, their gov't and big pharma. Stay well.
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For all its record number of cases, as of today Israel has recorded 237 total deaths for the month of January. And it's likely some of those are probably not "caused" by the virus. And there are less than 1000 patients hospitalized with the illness in the entire country. Again, some probably overcounted. At 75,000 cases PER DAY, that suggests to me those damn therapeutics are working remarkably well. Of course it would be wonderful if they prevented all deaths and hospitalizations, and even mild illness, but that probably was never realistic.
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Hey government! knock it off with the ads already. Also odd how even the people who read the entire national budget never found a line item for mainstream media. pbs sure, but their entire govt funding probably won't cover more than one or two network anchors. |
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He will ally us with his friends in N.Korea, and make them an international nuclear world power and since their ruler is partly divine, all opposition will be crushed! Leading to a beneficial totalitarian regime* This was all foretold in Pink floyds album "the wall" The biggest key line is "waiting to follow the worm" *Beneficial to who isn't deciphered yet.... |
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I am surprised more people don't get this. Carry on, sheep.
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LOL, find a thread that hasn't. All the PSA, PWCC, eBay, Covid, HOF, and PED threads are full of absolutely crazy beyond belief posts. They are better than a Jerry Springer show.
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Yes but it's hard on accountants and their orderly minds where everything must be in row or column.
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Odd, isn't it, that the Worldwide beloved Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò talks about Globalization and how the corrupt, crooked and evil want a dictatorship and a one world government.
Wonder where he dreamt this conspiracy theory up? Vid is near the bottom. Youtube removed it because, you know, free speech and such other silly ideas like freedom itself are overrated. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-regime-video/ If, for whatever reason, the video doesn't play, here is a recording of it. https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-n...nite-89432583/ Curious, does anyone else think, that just maybe, the mandates and vaccine passports are part of this? Nah, what am I thinking. They are for the greater good, your health and well being because they, the gov't and big pharma care so much!
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Just heard that a friend's brother (60 yo) just died of Covid this week- not vaccinated.
Orange County NY Thursday report from the County Executive- 20 deaths since Tuesday (he does his report Tuesday and Thursday on facebook)....5 vaccinated ages range from 60 to 80's...15 deaths non vaccinated ages range from 40 to 80's. Real numbers from real people. Jeff G. Last edited by ibuysportsephemera; 01-27-2022 at 04:05 PM. |
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"Not yet understood the significance of what is happening. It is a war fought not with weapons but with illegitimate rules, wicked economic policies, and intolerable limitations of natural rights" "It is a war fought not with weapons but with illegitimate rules,wicked economic policies, and intolerable limitations of natural rights"
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It's a huge undertaking, maybe an impossible one, no doubt about it, to get all those mentioned above on board, but it is their plan. Look at Australia already. Their country is already being run by a fascist dictator. Interment camps, beatings, fines, you name it. It is already underway, imo.
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Imagine there's no countries. Hmmm, think I'll see if I can work that into a song.
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I'm beginning to think it is even worse than all that, and we're being infiltrated and slowly taken over by evils aliens masquerading as humans.
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I'm going to proactively and personally plead the 3456789098765 amendment; it's coming.
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I wish someone would've asked this guy that same exact question fourteen years ago, or even now for that matter.
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I'm not going into get into a discussion with you because you've already made up your mind. But I will answer the question. I simply Googled "organ failure due to covid vaccine" and this is the first thing that popped up. I doubt you'll read it, but here it is anyways.
https://journals.lww.com/ccejournal/...nction.10.aspx There are more like articles on the same Google search page. |
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"While the overall efficacy and safety profile of the BNT162b2 COVID-19 vaccine remains excellent for the general population, rare serious events have been reported." This is essentially the same disclaimer you hear on every pharma ad that runs on TV. That's because there is no "100%" when it comes to medicine, because every human on this planet is wired differently. We aren't carbon copies or machines that you can import A and export results of B every time, without fail. The key takeaways for me are "efficacy and safety profile of the vaccine remains excellent for the general population" and "rare" serious side effects. All of the statistics from actual credible sources back this up. If this article is enough to make you not trust the vaccine, then you probably need to stock up on leeches to cure your ailments, because you might experience side effects just as bad from taking, for example, NyQuil: https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-6...st-sideeffects Last edited by dgo71; 01-28-2022 at 10:45 PM. Reason: People like links |
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Virtually every medical intervention comes with some degree of risk that must be weighed against its benefits. Offering up a rare adverse event report to cast doubt on a beneficial treatment really isn’t very persuasive at all. It’s just fear mongering. Getting into your car and driving to the grocery store comes with a risk. If I posted a story about someone who got killed driving to the grocery store, would people decide not to do it anymore? I doubt it. But it’s the same concept. I would be willing to bet you could post hundreds of serious adverse event reports about Tylenol and even more about aspirin. In fact aspirin probably directly causes thousands of deaths per year.
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"An extensive clinical and research investigation, including cytokine analysis, whole blood cytometry by time of flight, and whole exome sequencing, did not reveal a definitive explanatory mechanism"
Also from the article you linked...if I'm reading this correctly,this is saying the doctors involved in this study could not determine a cause for any of the effects the patients experienced. It's not exactly airtight to definitively blame a vaccine for anything, when even the medical professionals you yourself are citing did not feel comfortable in doing so. |
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