BST Flippers

[SAllen2556]

Would it be considered rude or against the unwritten rules to state when selling, "No dealers please". Nothing personal, but people who buy a card and flip it for a quick profit kinda piss me off, and it would really piss me off if it was my card. And yes, I know it's wrong to feel that way, but all dealers do is help to jack up prices.

[Snapolit1]

Good comments.

Like someone said, there are a lot of reasons why people sell. Sometimes I buy a bit too much and feel like I need to sell to balance the scales a little. Sometimes I have my heart set on something and then something else comes along and I want more and all of a sudden would like some collecting cash on hand. Can be a lot of reasons.

People can sell anything they want. I get it. I guess there is a part of me that thinks "Yeah, I could have sold at an AH for $1000 too with a little more effort . . . . but I sold it someone here for $600 because I was trying to do a good thing for a fellow collector and not milk them to the last drop."

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Good comments.

Like someone said, there are a lot of reasons why people sell. Sometimes I buy a bit too much and feel like I need to sell to balance the scales a little. Sometimes I have my heart set on something and then something else comes along and I want more and all of a sudden would like some collecting cash on hand. Can be a lot of reasons.

People can sell anything they want. I get it. I guess there is a part of me that thinks :Yeah, I could have sold at an AH for $1000 too with a little more effort . . . . but I sold it someone here for $600 because I was trying to do a good thing for a fellow collector and not milk them to the last drop."

No good deed goes unpunished, as they say.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by SAllen2556

Would it be considered rude or against the unwritten rules to state when selling, "No dealers please". Nothing personal, but people who buy a card and flip it for a quick profit kinda piss me off, and it would really piss me off if it was my card. And yes, I know it's wrong to feel that way, but all dealers do is help to jack up prices.

Dealers don't determine prices though. Buyers do.

If you want to sell something for below market to a fellow collector as a kind gesture, I think it's on you to ask the right questions first before selling it to someone. It's a kind gesture and I certainly see the value in it, but you would be wise to recognize that this is a free market we all swim in, and if you just post some random card for half of what it's worth and let anyone buy it, no questions asked, you're effectively throwing meat out to the wolves. Whenever I "pay it forward", I always make sure I either know the buyer already or at least sniff them out first.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Dealers don't determine prices though. Buyers do.

If you want to sell something for below market to a fellow collector as a kind gesture, I think it's on you to ask the right questions first before selling it to someone. It's a kind gesture and I certainly see the value in it, but you would be wise to recognize that this is a free market we all swim in, and if you just post some random card for half of what it's worth and let anyone buy it, no questions asked, you're effectively throwing meat out to the wolves. Whenever I "pay it forward", I always make sure I either know the buyer already or at least sniff them out first.

And all potential buyers always tell the truth when sniffed, but are the wolves honest.

[parkplace33]

I never use the “it’s for my personal collection” when trying to get a card. If I want the card, I just get the card, no explanation needed.

Just remember, a lot of card collectors tell taller tales than fisherman.

[Arazi4442]

I guess it depends on how you view the N54 BST. Is it a marketplace or is it a forum for like minded collectors to get together and exchange cards, memorabilia, etc. I would like to think it’s the second but with so much money in the hobby now, that’s probably naive to wish for. The answer to all your questions is 💰

[Leon]

I think the BST is both a marketplace and a community. If I see a card listed for $100 and I feel it's worth $300 I will buy it and flip it. Most times those buys are for my collection though. And if I tell someone something is for my collection it's true and I won't be flipping it anytime soon. If someone gives someone their asking price then what's the big deal? Knowledge is king.

BTW, I have had the ole crying ,weeping issue before where a member said he didn't mean to sell me a 30k card...cried and whined to undo the deal and said he was keeping it and would die with it. But for some reason he had me send the card to REA and I got a check from them (many years ago now). I won't ever trust him again.

edited to say, after more reflection, I would actually trust the person in my situation again. I think he had some very serious personal issues going on at the time. He's a good guy...
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[jingram058]

The thing is this, if I was a seller (which I most definitely am not), and I negotiate a deal whereby I am helping someone out, for whatever their reason in their collecting, and they turn around and flip, then I would not be annoyed, I would be downright pissed. If I sold and no special deal, and someone bought it and then flipped, that's on me.

[Tao_Moko]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think the BST is both a marketplace and a community. If I see a card listed for $100 and I feel it's worth $300 I will buy it and flip it. Most times those buys are for my collection though. And if I tell someone something is for my collection it's true and I won't be flipping it anytime soon. If someone gives someone their asking price then what's the big deal? Knowledge is king.

BTW, I have had the ole crying ,weeping issue before where a member said he didn't mean to sell me a 30k card...cried and whined to undo the deal and said he was keeping it and would die with it. But for some reason he had me send the card to REA and I got a check from them (many years ago now). I won't ever trust him again.
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That would turn me off for future transactions too. Empathy is not a strong attribute of mine. I'd be more apt to reverse a deal if the seller were honest with me. "Hey, I didn't do my research and screwed up. Any chance I can refund you and make it up in a future transaction?"