NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
ebay GSB
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-13-2021, 10:44 AM
egri's Avatar
egri egri is offline
Sco.tt Mar.cus
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 1,793
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by icurnmedic View Post
Second, I can't imagine Probstein would risk any negative publicity or legal action over $1100. Just isn't logical.
Eh, Kevin Mize was willing to get banned from here (and Blowout) over $1,000, so I could see it happening.
__________________
Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-13-2021, 11:03 AM
ullmandds's Avatar
ullmandds ullmandds is online now
pete ullman
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: saint paul, mn
Posts: 11,276
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by egri View Post
Eh, Kevin Mize was willing to get banned from here (and Blowout) over $1,000, so I could see it happening.
apples to oranges...I also feel this is a mistake...no way rick would risk negative publicity over something so miniscule seeming.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-13-2021, 11:31 AM
uniship uniship is offline
Eric Pugh
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jupiter, FL
Posts: 289
Default

Don’t underestimate his brazen incompetence, apathy and lack of caring. He’s extraordinary in these areas.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-13-2021, 12:26 PM
3-2-count's Avatar
3-2-count 3-2-count is offline
T0NY @
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by uniship View Post
Don’t underestimate his brazen incompetence, apathy and lack of caring. He’s extraordinary in these areas.
This ^^^^^
__________________
Tony Andrea
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-13-2021, 12:31 PM
sportscardpete's Avatar
sportscardpete sportscardpete is offline
Pete
Pet.er ian.nic.elli
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: New York
Posts: 1,406
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by egri View Post
Eh, Kevin Mize was willing to get banned from here (and Blowout) over $1,000, so I could see it happening.
Can't see the similarity, Probstein is center-stage in the hobby while Mize was off-center.
__________________
Looking for:

W600 Cobb and Wagner
Sporting News/Collins McCarthy Jackson
Seamless Cobb rookie
Low Grade Ruth rookie

Cards:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/189414509@N08/albums
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-13-2021, 12:59 PM
parkplace33 parkplace33 is offline
Drew W@i$e
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 1,178
Default

For every one person who hates on Probstein, there are 10 more who want to use/buy him. He is the biggest card seller on Ebay now that PWCC is gone.

Not condoning what happen to the member, just giving perspective.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-13-2021, 01:03 PM
egri's Avatar
egri egri is offline
Sco.tt Mar.cus
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Norfolk, VA
Posts: 1,793
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportscardpete View Post
Can't see the similarity, Probstein is center-stage in the hobby while Mize was off-center.
__________________
Signed 1953 Topps set: 264/274 (96.35 %)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-13-2021, 01:14 PM
packs packs is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 8,471
Default

Tough situation.

Last edited by Leon; 10-14-2021 at 11:08 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-13-2021, 02:34 PM
RL's Avatar
RL RL is offline
Randy
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Michigan
Posts: 234
Default

file a chargeback
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-13-2021, 02:45 PM
55koufax 55koufax is offline
ja.mes na.higian
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 183
Default multiple alarms repeated here

1. Probstein's zero response. Including two days of direct requests thru eBay's protocol (not mine or any one person on N 54) and 7 days of eBay's protocol.

2. The fact that you cannot contact him, or any company rep, via phone. You cannot even leave a voice message. During the pandemic this has become the protocol for a lot of businesses and it is wrong on so many levels. They are quick to grab your $$$$, but hide behind a pandemic to ill serve their clients.

3. eBay. Wrong protocol and decisions on so many levels. I followed their exact protocol 100% without deviation. Did specifically what Concierge in their Sports Card division said to do. I have been told here on a few fronts that I did it incorrectly. I shoulda done this or that. Next time I should not contact eBay Concierge Sports Cards, but N 54..........

4. eBay. Specifically a Team Leader (one of just a few I am told in Sports Cards) named Heather who made the ultimate decision NOT to allow a refund or any other means of pursuit. She shut it down specifically because there is full tracking on their site and USPS shows delivery with signature. NOTHING ELSE MATTERED FOR CERTAIN to her in her decision making process. She told me this, as did others.

So I repeat, eBay has a loophole. They know it. They do not care.

Probstein is not a seller who can be trusted. Yes, I had problems with him over the past 20 years. Yes, as suggested, probably should not utilize him.

That said, if one is competing on the PSA Set Registry with 50 sets, he is one of the few tools for finding obscure higher grade commons in a lot of POST WWII sets, that is for certain.

Also, I know PWCC is back with their own 40,000+ card auction, so that is again an option for Registry collectors like me, thank goodness. I am not a fan of Brent either, but that said, I have only experienced one issue with Brent over 20 years, as opposed to 4 or 5 with Probstein.

I thank most of you for some seemingly worthy advice, including asking AMEX to step in, as I paid via Paypal with AMEX. I have asked Paypal once before to assist with a card issue and they did not. I think AMEX will have my back, but not certain.

I did reach out to USPS which does have Special Agents and like an Internal Affairs section. They move slowwwwwly, I can already tell. Doubtful they can help, but nonetheless, they should know what happened.

Lastly, it seems certain that anybody who wants to scam eBay buyers can by short packing signature required tracked packages. I even explained this to Team Leader Heather who was deaf by choice to my disclosure. She could care less.

Bottom line is I am out $1,100 for doing nothing wrong except trying to add an important multi point Reggie card to improve one of my sets. It just ain't right.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-13-2021, 02:52 PM
Leon's Avatar
Leon Leon is offline
Leon
peasant/forum owner
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: near Dallas
Posts: 34,569
Default

Everyone in this thread needs to have their full name in their post or obtainable from it. Otherwise, please edit out your comments. This is in keeping with the rule in bold letters at the top of every page. I am sure many members haven't noticed it so here it is ...

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

thanks
mgmt


.
__________________
Leon Luckey
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-13-2021, 02:52 PM
uniship uniship is offline
Eric Pugh
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Jupiter, FL
Posts: 289
Default

Guess what. Probstein will read all of this. And he will do nothing. That’s WHO. HE. IS.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-13-2021, 03:02 PM
RL's Avatar
RL RL is offline
Randy
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Michigan
Posts: 234
Default

besides a chargeback, also file a stolen mail report with the suspect believed to be a usps employee.

and file a mail fraud complaint against probstein
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-13-2021, 04:33 PM
Aquarian Sports Cards Aquarian Sports Cards is offline
Scott Russell
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 6,440
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sportscardpete View Post
Can't see the similarity, Probstein is center-stage in the hobby while Mize was off-center.
POTY Nominee 2021
__________________
Check out https://www.thecollectorconnection.com Always looking for consignments 717.327.8915 We sell your less expensive pre-war cards individually instead of in bulk lots to make YOU the most money possible!

and Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecollectorconnectionauctions
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Probstein Snapolit1 Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 24 05-23-2020 06:32 PM
Probstein and scg nicknock-2013 Basketball / Cricket / Tennis Cards Forum 5 04-21-2017 06:04 PM
Probstein ullmandds Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 18 03-31-2016 05:24 PM
Another Probstein LOL bnorth Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions 295 12-12-2013 06:47 PM
anyone here win the N43's from probstein? 1880nonsports 19th Century Cards & ALL Baseball Postcards- B/S/T 0 11-17-2013 09:41 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:54 PM.


ebay GSB