Omitted players from 33 Goudey

[Carter08]

Great question. My light review of the stats makes me think they got it right but would be interested on what others think. I’m thinking only in terms like guys like Collins that were done by the time the cards went out. Cobb would have been nice in that regard.

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Great question. My light review of the stats makes me think they got it right but would be interested on what others think. I’m thinking only in terms like guys like Collins that were done by the time the cards went out. Cobb would have been nice in that regard.

Along those lines, why was Nap Lajoie included? He'd been retired for almost 2 decades.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Along those lines, why was Nap Lajoie included? He'd been retired for almost 2 decades.

There's been a lot of speculation around the idea. I know Ted Z posted about it a while back in this thread

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=265001

Also apparently 106 was supposed to be Leo Durocher and a copy of that card does indeed exist. Lajoie was added I believe when collectors inquired about completing the set. He was a late printed, addition to the set to round it out.

[egri]

I know he's not a big name, but I would've liked Bill Werber to have been included. He was still alive when I got into the hobby, and that would've given me the chance to get one signed TTM.

[Misunderestimated]

Off hand Luke Appling -- he was an established player by then but not in the set. Goudey included him in the much smaller set the next year.
Walter Johnson was an active manager in 1932 and 33 (different teams)-- so he, like Connie Mack, certainly could have been included if managers were proper subjects.
Judge Landis and manager Joe McCarthy would have been a boon to Hall of Fame collectors (long long after the fact)
Honus Wagner was still coaching the Pirates -- the set included Tris Speaker whose direct involvement in the majors was over. Don't think that there was any clear reason in including Speaker (and sort of Lajoie) and not Johnson and Wagner unless it had to do with playing for Cleveland's AL entry.
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When I really think about it what makes the least sense is the inclusion of the Speaker card. I think he's the only non-active HOFer in the set.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Eddie Collins has a card and he was retired too.

[judsonhamlin]

‘High Pockets’ Kelly was still mostly a starter for Brooklyn and could’ve been included

[Misunderestimated]

Opps thanks Peter ...Collins was the GM of the Red Sox in 1933 (I think).. His card reflects his Boston AL affiliation. The Speaker card recognizes his affiliation (part owner) of the Kansas City Blues. Guess we could have had a Jesse Burkett card -- he was a manager in the minors as late as 1933, for the Lowell Lauriers in the good old New England league and Wilbert Robinson who retired as a manager in 1931 and was an owner of the Atlanta Crackers (you cannot make this up).

[egri]

I would've liked to have seen a Bobo Newsom as well.

[Tyruscobb]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Eddie Collins has a card and he was retired too.

The true 1933 Goudey set contained two retired players - Tris Speaker and Eddie Collins. Although it’s considered a 1933 Goudey, the Nap Lajoie card was not actually printed until 1934. You know the story.

[pingman59]

Call me biased. Si Johnson, of Sheridan, IL (my hometown), could have made the set as he was an established big league pitcher for the then-lowly last place 1932 Cincinnati Reds. He tied for the most wins on the Reds staff that year with 13 and was second in IP with 245. But, maybe with ten Reds already in the set, one more would have been too many. I'll dig-up a scan of an ersatz 1933 Goudey card I made to honor him and post it.