How many different Wagners have sold publicly?

[Pat R]

Jim, Tim and Art at t206resource are the people to thank for the great list that they started and keep updated.


Here's the Wagner Gallery on the site, there's a scan of the Wagner before it was graded (#32)

http://www.t206resource.com/Wagner-Gallery.html

[RedsFan1941]

i am sure ted has that list too

[vthobby]

Whoever was at the Sothebys Auction must be kicking themselves!

12/04/04
Sothebys
PSA 4
$0.00
Did not sell

Incredibly list!

Thanks for sharing!~

Mike

[Hankphenom]

Very cool. Interesting that not a single example came up for sale publicly during the decade of the 80s when the hobby was exploding. No doubt the price paid for the Gretzky in '91 brought about much of the action in that decade. I'd love to see a chronological list of the sales of each particular card to highlight the movement in prices realized over time.

[Frank A]

I was at a local auction in, I believe New Milford, Connecticut back in the mid 1980's and watched one sell for $36,000. I did not have $36,000. Thought it was a good deal. The buyer was from Cooperstown.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Frank A

I was at a local auction in, I believe New Milford, Connecticut back in the mid 1980's and watched one sell for $36,000. I did not have $36,000. Thought it was a good deal. The buyer was from Cooperstown.

Larry Fritsch, maybe, wasn't his shop in Cooperstown then? And I'd think that event would have made it into the hobby press at the time, but perhaps not if the auction was strictly a local affair. On the other hand, that would have been the record for a baseball card at that time, right, assuming Mastro paid $25,000 for his uncut sheet, and should have made something of a splash nationally. Anybody else heard about this auction?

[Howe’s Hunter]

Sorry if hijacking the thread, but I’m curious about Wagner’s with a Piedmont back. I have it on good authority that the gentle who stamped all his cards that I collect had a Wagner. With a Piedmont back. I’ve heard from two people who saw it as late as 1975, but it hasn’t been seen since, as far as I can tell.

So I know any Wagner is rare and valuable. And that only three or four examples are known to have the Piedmont back. But I’ve never actually seen a front/back scan combo of Wagner/Piedmont. And I’m guessing that unless someone wanted to spend the money to remove the stamp from the back of the card (and it would cover most of it), it should still exist. Maybe just tucked away in a very private collection since the late 70s.

But if anyone knows somebody who knows somebody who has a Piedmont Wagner, I’d really appreciate hearing from them. Seems like there should be some sort of secret society of Wagner owners that would meet at Lou Malnati’s under the elevated train tracks in Chicago once a year and compare stories and offers.

If I ever get one, I’ll start that. 😄😉

[Frank A]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Larry Fritsch, maybe, wasn't his shop in Cooperstown then? And I'd think that event would have made it into the hobby press at the time, but perhaps not if the auction was strictly a local affair. On the other hand, that would have been the record for a baseball card at that time, right, assuming Mastro paid $25,000 for his uncut sheet, and should have made something of a splash nationally. Anybody else heard about this auction?

If you look up Paul Leanard, Auctioneer you will see that it sold for $32,000. Hard for an old guy to remember that far back. Got it right now. It's written in his obit. He was a good guy. Frank

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Frank A

I was at a local auction in, I believe New Milford, Connecticut back in the mid 1980's and watched one sell for $36,000. I did not have $36,000. Thought it was a good deal. The buyer was from Cooperstown.

If it's the same one,

Woodbury Ct. Nutmeg Auctions.

I was also there. They waited for the eventual buyer to arrive, moving on to other lots after a brief delay then going back to it once he arrived.

I still have the auction catalog somewhere.

What got funny was that the card was a pretty clear f-p, creased and writing on the back. Over the next year it was offered by a string of dealers in SCD, and each time it's grade got better.... Not alterations, just wishful grading. Last ad was I think for 9K and calling it VG.

[steve B]

The one from Woodbury might... just maybe could also be #39 the Chesapeake Wagner.

Which would be strange for it to turn up in two different finds after being sold fairly often.

I'll have to compare the picture once I find the auction catalog. That won't be soon, as it's with a bunch of "less organized" stuff.