Gauging interest in a piggyback sub!!! GRADES POSTED 1 YEAR LATER!!!

[swarmee]

MK and MC qualifiers are not being eliminated, only the OC, OF, ST, and PD.
https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...date-june-2021
So having a MK in the order doesn't mean anything.

[bobbyw8469]

bump so people can see their grades.

[toledo_mudhen]

So if you go thru and look at all 283 cards - It appears that PSA pretty much hammered everything.

Couple of things come to mind -

What constitutes an "Altered Stock" designation - and this is on a 52 Topps fairly common card?

What is the difference between "Minimum Size" and "Evidence of Trim"?

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

So if you go thru and look at all 283 cards - It appears that PSA pretty much hammered everything.

Couple of things come to mind -

What constitutes an "Altered Stock" designation - and this is on a 52 Topps fairly common card?

What is the difference between "Minimum Size" and "Evidence of Trim"?

Just a guess Lonnie but probably the altered stock on a 52 Topps would be because it was in a flat screw down holder at one point.

[swarmee]

Altered stock is normally from being in a screwdown holder, because that could change the width of the card and press out creases and wrinkles. Because it could be used to hide alterations, PSA calls it altered stock. Could have also been for something that damaged the surface gloss. Card could have also gotten water damage over time which made the stock thicker than normal.

MinSize means that PSA couldn't detect any trimming, but the card was too small compared to the normal size of that set, outside of its maximum allowable tolerance.

Evidence of Trim means that they did note some part of the card was trimmed.

[NonSportDaniel]

Originally Posted by swarmee

MK and MC qualifiers are not being eliminated, only the OC, OF, ST, and PD.
https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...date-june-2021
So having a MK in the order doesn't mean anything.

I didn't read it as those qualifiers are being eliminated, only that they will be used at the graders discretion and that you can not request that they not be used. In this submission I requested no qualifiers and received a MK, a MC, and an OC. The presence of the qualifiers is a major bummer when the rules when we submitted were that you could request no qualifiers; major bummer.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by NonSportDaniel

I didn't read it as those qualifiers are being eliminated, only that they will be used at the graders discretion and that you can not request that they not be used. In this submission I requested no qualifiers and received a MK, a MC, and an OC. The presence of the qualifiers is a major bummer when the rules when we submitted were that you could request no qualifiers; major bummer.

You will still get MK or MC as those are not removable if you select "No Qualifiers"; that's how it's always been and still seems to be with this change. So the only difference you would have seen was a lowered grade (by at least 2 grades) for the OC ones.
However, I thought the "No Qualifiers" was for the entire order, not specific cards. So because you submitted with a group submission, whatever Bobby selected for the submission is what would have mattered to your cards within. Authentic vs. unslabbed Alterations/Minsiz you can select for each card, or at least it was the last time I submitted to PSA.

[sb1]

You can select "no qualifiers" on a line by line basis

[NonSportDaniel]

Originally Posted by sb1

You can select "no qualifiers" on a line by line basis

correct

[bobbyw8469]

Stay tuned....I'll PM with details.

[bobbyw8469]

PS - a lot of the cards had "MK" qualifiers. Some I am seeing. A lot of them, I am not. You can argue for the "ST" qualifier on some instead of "MK". Most I am dumbfounded. The low grade is SUPPOSED to incorporate some mild staining. EVERY single 1933 Goudey Indian card got a "MK" qualifier??? I think not. I will send some scans when I get home.