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And just imagine. It cost you not one copper penny.
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Today (43 days later) - The Completed Through Date shows as August 4, 2020 So they have manged to process 1 additional day of submissions in 43+ days? Can't think of any other business that currently displays such a blatant disregard for Customer Service - When you need a wheelbarrow to haul the cash to the bank - I guess you can afford to say "Yea - eff a whole bunch of Customer Service"
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That was the value vintage service that I originally thought this sub was in and that one is now completed through September 22. This sub is actually in what is now called the quarterly service and that one has moved 2 days in the past 26 days. |
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It is painfully slow. And we are definitely one of the oldest subs there.
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Quarterly Specials still showing as Completed Thru August 4, 2020
Not moving even a bit over the last couple of weeks
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Jumped to Aug 9th today.
I'm not even in this sub but I always check out of interest when checking on my express submission through date. Good luck, getting close Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk |
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I saw that as well. This in unbeleivable.
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and 1 week later still holding steady at Aug 9, 2020 - FFS (they cant even gain 1 day in a week?)
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I think the backlog excuse is bs when you look at the progress since they
stopped all submissions except the top two services. I think it's something like they can't get enough holders and for whatever reason they don't want to say that. PSA CTD 3-16-21.jpg |
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The sub is STILL sitting in grading. It is one month shy from being a year.
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I will be going on vacation soon. I really hope these pop while I am gone.
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I will be retiring in 18 months and really hoping that these come back before then.
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......and so it goes....
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And once again...still not cost you one copper penny.
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I see today where the CTD for "quarterly specials" went from 08/09/2020 to 06/30/2020..... so lost 40 ish days on CTD in the last week or so.
Perfect -
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Say's August 9 on my computer.
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It's August 9 on my computer.
Last edited by Pat R; 06-01-2021 at 06:02 AM. |
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We have moved to assembly. I am on vacation. More details to come, hopefully soon.
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Not even a single day of movement of these since 5/13/2020 - WTF!
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And to make matters worse Lonnie, two of my biggest cards that enjoyed huge appreciation while they were sitting around collecting dust over at PSA got graded recently. "Min Size Rqd". I feel like I got kicked in the stomach. These are legitimate cards. It is almost like PSA is turning into slot machine in Vegas. They are choosing whether they want to give you a big win or not. |
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Yea - it' totally like a crapshoot anymore.
Remember when we were hopin to have them back by Christmas?? Oddly enough I seem to be getting the itch to send in another 25 or so - to someone - just not sure who atm. Even CSG is saying 4 months turnaround now.
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I don't think the graded card market will will be the same ever again. And that saddens me. What a roller coaster the hobby has been on.
Last edited by bobbyw8469; 06-07-2021 at 06:42 AM. |
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QA Check #2
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9 more days and it will officially be a year since PSA received the cards. I'm dumbfounded.
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Bobby I'm just as dumbfounded that they said they closed off the majority of the submissions to catch up and their progress has slowed dramatically since that time.
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Looks like CTD has finally moved to August 11 today.....
So not sure why we would be in QA2 yet..... Isn't QA2 the last phase before return shipping?
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OK...Here are the grades, after 1 year. If you want to be surprised, DO NOT CLICK THE LINK!!!!!!!! Here ya go.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...60c1225f#gid=0 |
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Does this mean the Swingin' 60's sub should be done by X-mas 2021?
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LOL.........hard to say.......Things are backed up pretty bad right now....bad enough they shut down future business.
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(And please, no one come on here to argue about what I am saying. It doesn't matter if you prefer to have a straight grade that encompasses centering or if you believe it's the right move for PSA to make, that NOT the issue. The issue is we submitted under certain rules, and they changed them. That is not acceptable.)
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Couple of things - Looks like these did include "qualifiers" as I received 1 card back with the "MK" designation.
Sent 34 1955 Topps BB in for grading on this go round. Of the 34 I had "opinion" graded the vast majority as coming back a 6 with a couple maybe hitting 6.5 and a couple coming back in the 5 range (Dont recall a Mark on the card they designated but will see when I get it in hand) Had several "shockers" that included a 3 cards coming back below 5 and 11 cards coming back as 7s (or better) Of the 11 one (Boone) came back as 8.5 - Still scratching my head on this one as I don't know how an EXMT card sitting in my EXMT set along with tons of other 6s could hit that "rare air". The other 7s (and 4 additional 8s) are somewhat annoying to me for the same reason - didnt look out of place in an EXMT set Hand picked for centering - Looks like I now get to go out in search of 14 additional 6s. If you have any of the 14 in PSA Holders that are well centered - I would be interested Thanks The Boone (8.5)?? The following results simply reinforce the idea that after all these years - I STILL have no clue when it comes to BB Card Grading. The Mathews is particularly annoying as I was sure it was a 6 all day.....
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I know that ALL of these cards were in pretty much identical in condition and they should have all hit the 6 (ish) range.
The cards that came back as below 5 and especially the PSA 8.5 grade makes me think that they don't really have a clue as to what is going on over there.... I would guess lots of brand new "Graders"? Don't know - Reminds of the old "Turkey Shoots" - One shot from a 12 gauge at 25 yards and the guy with the pellet closest to center wins....
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OK - Now that I am done bitchin -
Just wanted to say - Mega Kudos to Bobby for puttin these things together - Not many guys out there would invest a year of time and tons of paperwork to put something like this together for FREE.... Thanks Bobby!!
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I sent in 23 mostly lower grade t206's and they were about what I expected no real surprises either way. 8 - came back the grade I estimated 5 - + 1/2 grade 7 - - 1/2 grade 1 - + 1 2 - - 1 grade The two that stood out the most to me was a Knabe that came back a 3 that I thought was a 2 and a Leifield that came back a 2 that I thought was a 3 when you look at the two together I don't see how the Knabe is a grade higher than the Leifield. Knabe PSA 2.jpg Leifield PSA 3.jpg Last edited by Pat R; 06-10-2021 at 08:56 AM. |
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when you look at the two together I don't see how the Knabe is a grade higher than the Leifield.
Yes - Exactly my point!
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New graders Pat. That is my suspicion.
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MK and MC qualifiers are not being eliminated, only the OC, OF, ST, and PD.
https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...date-june-2021 So having a MK in the order doesn't mean anything.
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So if you go thru and look at all 283 cards - It appears that PSA pretty much hammered everything.
Couple of things come to mind - What constitutes an "Altered Stock" designation - and this is on a 52 Topps fairly common card? What is the difference between "Minimum Size" and "Evidence of Trim"?
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Altered stock is normally from being in a screwdown holder, because that could change the width of the card and press out creases and wrinkles. Because it could be used to hide alterations, PSA calls it altered stock. Could have also been for something that damaged the surface gloss. Card could have also gotten water damage over time which made the stock thicker than normal.
MinSize means that PSA couldn't detect any trimming, but the card was too small compared to the normal size of that set, outside of its maximum allowable tolerance. Evidence of Trim means that they did note some part of the card was trimmed.
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However, I thought the "No Qualifiers" was for the entire order, not specific cards. So because you submitted with a group submission, whatever Bobby selected for the submission is what would have mattered to your cards within. Authentic vs. unslabbed Alterations/Minsiz you can select for each card, or at least it was the last time I submitted to PSA.
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Stay tuned....I'll PM with details.
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PS - a lot of the cards had "MK" qualifiers. Some I am seeing. A lot of them, I am not. You can argue for the "ST" qualifier on some instead of "MK". Most I am dumbfounded. The low grade is SUPPOSED to incorporate some mild staining. EVERY single 1933 Goudey Indian card got a "MK" qualifier??? I think not. I will send some scans when I get home.
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Maybe WST or bleedthrough now being counted as MK?
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