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Old 04-09-2021, 12:13 PM
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I was not aware of that, thank you.
Now I just recently got a card that came back as "miscut" from SGC as well and they didn't holder the card. Why would a miscut card not receive a numerical grade? I've seen countless cards with diamond cuts graded numerically.
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Old 04-09-2021, 12:55 PM
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Now I just recently got a card that came back as "miscut" from SGC as well and they didn't holder the card. Why would a miscut card not receive a numerical grade? I've seen countless cards with diamond cuts graded numerically.
I was wondering the same thing. I was always under the impression that the miscut hurt the grade but wasn't a disqualifying factor
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Old 04-09-2021, 04:15 PM
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Wazoo- "Now I just recently got a card that came back as "miscut" from SGC as well and they didn't holder the card. Why would a miscut card not receive a numerical grade? I've seen countless cards with diamond cuts graded numerically."


Maybe when a card is factory cut but still smaller than allowable size tolerance.

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Now I just recently got a card that came back as "miscut" from SGC as well and they didn't holder the card. Why would a miscut card not receive a numerical grade? I've seen countless cards with diamond cuts graded numerically.
I never checked with them, and I sent the Needham in a long time ago.
But I think what it was is that the top and bottom were very rough cuts. Probably bad enough that most casual collectors wouldn't think of them as factory edges.

This scan doesn't really do justice to how rough they really are.


I was annoyed at first, but eventually figured that if most people who haven't seen many would doubt it, having it with a number grade would probably hurt the grading co reputation.

Same for cards that are undersize but have factory cuts. How often do we see stuff posted like "how could they grade a card that's that short? It must be trimmed"
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Old 04-12-2021, 11:29 AM
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I never checked with them, and I sent the Needham in a long time ago.
But I think what it was is that the top and bottom were very rough cuts. Probably bad enough that most casual collectors wouldn't think of them as factory edges.

This scan doesn't really do justice to how rough they really are.


I was annoyed at first, but eventually figured that if most people who haven't seen many would doubt it, having it with a number grade would probably hurt the grading co reputation.

Same for cards that are undersize but have factory cuts. How often do we see stuff posted like "how could they grade a card that's that short? It must be trimmed"
Well said. And makes sense to me. Funny how yours is a Sov. Here is mine for comparison. Appears to be diamond cut as day, although severe I suppose.
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Well said. And makes sense to me. Funny how yours is a Sov. Here is mine for comparison. Appears to be diamond cut as day, although severe I suppose.
That should be a VG, maybe a bit better any time.

From the other thread, it looks like they don't have anyone with a clue anymore.
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That should be a VG, maybe a bit better any time.

From the other thread, it looks like they don't have anyone with a clue anymore.
For a card that measures, and has not received an alterations that I’m aware of, it should receive a numerical grade. I don’t understand how a factory miscut/diamond cut warrants otherwise. Authentic has become too large of a designation in my opinion, leaves a lot of collectors looking at slabs and grades in the dark.
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Or at least do the miscut grade cap to a 1.5-2 like I’ve seen previously. Plenty of cards with partial names on top in recent slabs that are getting 3s...
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Or at least do the miscut grade cap to a 1.5-2 like I’ve seen previously. Plenty of cards with partial names on top in recent slabs that are getting 3s...
I just got back a T206 Sweeney with name on top and bottom about a month ago and it got a numerical grade. This must be a VERY recent change for them. I've been loyal to SGC but it has me considering other options.
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