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Old 04-08-2021, 08:33 AM
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This is such a specious post. Using the logic on display here, we can cite any number of positions held by doctors/scientists in the past, going back centuries, and use that as a reason to call them wrong and foolish today. But we all know that knowledge evolves. Things we didn't know on Day X, especially about novel subjects, we come to learn in Day X +++.
Yeah, but the fact of the matter is that we're not going back centuries; we're only going back a little over a year. Nice try though. You get an E for effort.
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Old 04-08-2021, 08:43 AM
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Old 04-08-2021, 09:57 AM
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Yeah, but the fact of the matter is that we're not going back centuries; we're only going back a little over a year. Nice try though. You get an E for effort.
You are the one who started with a deliberately misleading post. Yes it is a little over a year, but in terms of the amount of research that had been at the time and the amount of research that has been done since it is a huge amount of time. But that doesn't fit your agenda so you will disregard it.

I don't give a flying flip if you get the vaccine or go to a baseball game or do whatever makes you feel good. This isn't about my views on Covid, it is an objection to your cherry picking scientific examples to meet your needs.
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Old 04-08-2021, 10:35 AM
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You are the one who started with a deliberately misleading post. Yes it is a little over a year, but in terms of the amount of research that had been at the time and the amount of research that has been done since it is a huge amount of time. But that doesn't fit your agenda so you will disregard it.

I don't give a flying flip if you get the vaccine or go to a baseball game or do whatever makes you feel good. This isn't about my views on Covid, it is an objection to your cherry picking scientific examples to meet your needs.
You missed the point of my post, so let me make it a little more clear for you. I'm tired of being told that we need to listen to science...the same science that is constantly changing. I only gave one example of that, but if you would you like others so I don't seem to be cherry picking or come across as misleading then I can certainly provide them.

My entire point was this. People need to stop telling others to listen to science and let people do their own thing...and not criticize them or call them irresponsible for doing so. Just remember, this "science" is from the same brilliant minds () that tell us we should double mask, but are photographed at a baseball game without their mask.
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Old 04-08-2021, 11:07 AM
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You missed the point of my post, so let me make it a little more clear for you. I'm tired of being told that we need to listen to science...the same science that is constantly changing. I only gave one example of that, but if you would you like others so I don't seem to be cherry picking or come across as misleading then I can certainly provide them.

My entire point was this. People need to stop telling others to listen to science and let people do their own thing...and not criticize them or call them irresponsible for doing so. Just remember, this "science" is from the same brilliant minds () that tell us we should double mask, but are photographed at a baseball game without their mask.
Yes science constantly evolves, I would hope that people engaging in science learn something from their experiments and observations and push our knowledge forward. This is not a bad thing.

My point is that you have an agenda and you use specific cherry picked examples to push that agenda. When current science doesn't back up what you want you disparage it. When you want to use science to back up what you say you tout that you hold a water license from the State of Texas.

You want to get back to your life, we all do. Just say that and you live in a place where you can do that. You don't need to disparage science to be able to do it.

As I said before I don't care. There are 3 results I see

1) You don't get covid
2) You get covid and survive
3) You get covid and die

As long as you don't spread it to others, I don't care. You do you.
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Old 04-08-2021, 11:26 AM
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Yes science constantly evolves, I would hope that people engaging in science learn something from their experiments and observations and push our knowledge forward. This is not a bad thing.

My point is that you have an agenda and you use specific cherry picked examples to push that agenda. When current science doesn't back up what you want you disparage it. When you want to use science to back up what you say you tout that you hold a water license from the State of Texas.

You want to get back to your life, we all do. Just say that and you live in a place where you can do that. You don't need to disparage science to be able to do it.

As I said before I don't care. There are 3 results I see

1) You don't get covid
2) You get covid and survive
3) You get covid and die

As long as you don't spread it to others, I don't care. You do you.
Wow, you're hard headed. Once again, all I am saying is that as long as people aren't breaking any laws or intentionally causing harm to others, they should be left alone to do their own thing. My original post came after someone else disparaged others for wanting to go to a baseball game.

You're conditioned to the government solving all your problems, aren't you? Yeah, I can tell.
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Old 04-10-2021, 07:59 AM
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You missed the point of my post, so let me make it a little more clear for you. I'm tired of being told that we need to listen to science...the same science that is constantly changing.
Whenever you see one of the several variations of this comment, you can be assured that the person saying it is not a practitioner of science.

All science is provisional and necessarily falsifiable. It follows a rigorous process of hypothesis, testing, analysis, and peer review and represents the best current explanation of the natural world. As more information is learned, and as testing and analysis techniques improve, science moves forward and, in some cases, overturns the prior best explanations.

Anyone who expects scientific understanding to be immutable is confusing it with religion.

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Hash brown potatoes with eggs and bacon for breakfast this morning. mmmm potatoes
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Hash brown potatoes with eggs and bacon for breakfast this morning. mmmm potatoes
That sounds great, I am going to make jambalaya for lunch. About to go pick up some red and yellow bell peppers so I have everything I need to make it.
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