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FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 4.5
FS: 1948 Leaf Jackie Robinson PSA 4.5
$55,000
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hmmm....something looks fishy here? Explanation from the OP would be nice.
and it was copied to the front page, from our BST section, for a few more eyes. https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1451065 .
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Leon Luckey Last edited by Leon; 03-03-2021 at 12:48 PM. |
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I am just sick how much this card has appreciated. I would have LOVED to have retired early!!
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The card was removed for sale from eBay and MySlabs at that time and this individual was provided the evidence that the card is trimmed.
This same individual has now relisted the card on both eBay and MySlabs as shown below for $55,000-$70,000. Will also be curious to hear the explanation behind this. Last edited by BCauley; 03-03-2021 at 01:34 PM. Reason: Bolded sentence |
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If the sale is made, maybe PSA will pay out on the total... or maybe not.
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Card looks trimmed along the left side, likely with the intent of improving the centering.
I don't like the two left side corners. The apparent alteration is more evident when looking at the reverse side, in which the trimmed edge and 2 corners don't match the natural wear of the opposite side. In addition, the card appears narrow side-to-side, and is quite loose within the holder. Was it BODA that outed this one? Never Get Cheated Last edited by perezfan; 03-03-2021 at 04:46 PM. |
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Now we can post comments in bst threads?
Different rules for different fools. Any card ever sold by pwcc should be mentioned in the listing here on the bst.
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Perhaps PSA reviewed it already and somehow reaffirmed the grade.
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Classic.
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Thanks for the link Peter...
Amazing how the average person can immediately see the alteration from a small cell phone screen. Yet PSA can't (or won't) detect it with card in hand! Never Get Cheated! Last edited by perezfan; 03-03-2021 at 04:59 PM. |
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They thought they could sneak this by? It has to be done with no regard for the cards outing as trimmed. Evidence there is no standing behind their product.
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Well, they have a new owner/group now. Maybe....
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Looking forward to hearing from the seller here.
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Do you think we will?
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WOW, looks like attitudes of some have changed. I remember this exact subject come up a couple years ago and many said all that mattered was what the PSA flip said.
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Is there anything to even say? Sucks to see..
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Mark You are spot-on with your observation. Hey guys, For comparison, here is my JRobby which I can guarantee you has not tampered with. I acquired this card in the Spring of 1949 having pulled it out of a 1-cent LEAF wax-pack. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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File under american greed
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It's not a good look obviously but let's see if he defends it.
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It's getting so the only cards we can trust are the ones Ted Z pulled from packs as a snot nosed kid.
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In 1949. Lol.
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How dare you call me.... "a snot nosed kid" Shucks, I was just a shy-guy. Whatever....I pulled this JRobby from a BOND BREAD package in 1947. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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A term of endearment learned from my father. If you ever get your cards stabbed make sure they put your name on the label, they would definitely carry a provenance premium.
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I was only 10 years old in 1949....and there were times I was referred by some names much "wilder" than a snot-nosed kid. Sorry, but I have an aversion for "Graded" cards. Perhaps, my Grandson will get my cards graded when he inherits my collection. Anyhow, thanks for interjecting some humor into this thread. We could use lots more humor in today's overall situation. TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted - I am in awe of you holding on to cards for this long. Now, that's discipline! .
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And Ted, if you're ever open to accepting applications to be your grandson, please let us know.
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Much respect to tez z octavio
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Bobby These 1949 LEAF's were the first colorized BB cards in our neighborhood. We young dudes "LOVED" them. We flipped them, scaled them towards the steps on our porches (like playing horseshoes). And, the Babe Ruth, Joe D. and Jackie were certainly our favorites. Now, to answer your question. This is what these cards looked like right out of their wax-pack...... TED Z T206 Reference . |
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Ted's Cards
Will Ted be selling tickets to see his collection? I'll be the first in line. Has to be ridiculous..It's classic, anytime someone asks about a certain card or year Ted pops one up and then a couple more variations for fun. Great to watch. Thanks as always.
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Ditto!!! That is amazing!! I remember pulling a Fernando Valenzuala rookie card and thinking I was hot stuff!!!
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And?
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Very jealous not only of the cards kept but the experience pulling them. I guess maybe you don't always know when you've got something iconic in your hands like a Jackie Leaf but I can't imagine anyone in the future will be thrilled by my stories of pulling Don Mattingly cards.
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AJ had time to respond. Guess it was sort of black and white so no need to. Sayonara....
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AJ sent a message to me through another member. Here it is. (and for the time being the ban has been lifted so AJ can respond if he wants to)
AJ Johnson Asked Me to Send This Note To You- Hi Leon, I've been crazy with a work project that just finished up and didn't get a chance to respond on net54. I'm in negotiations with PSA to buy back the card and needed to establish a real world value for the card, which is why it was listed on ebay/net54/myslabs etc. The card was never going to be sold but figured if I could show PSA what someone was willing to pay for it in that grade would strengthen my case. I also hoped that it would garner some controversy (which it did :-) which will help my bargaining position. My position spelled out in a net54 thread is unchanged. If a TPG mistakenly grades an altered card, they should stand behind their guarantee and buy back the card at fair market value. cheers, A.J. .
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yes the ultimate goal is to have PSA (if they deem the card trimmed) to reholder the card in an auth-trimmed holder and pay me the difference between purchase price and established market price. I've got a whole slew of offers that I declined on Ebay and two written offers to show as proof.
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I guess there are no comps available through VCP or the PSA website for a 4.5 Leaf Jackie.
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no not really (especially given the craziness in the last 90 days). And I wasn't going to let PSA dictate what the market would bring
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A.J. Johnson https://www.collectorfocus.com/collection/ajohnson39 *Proudest hobby accomplishment: finished the 1914 Cracker Jack set currently ranked #12 all-time Last edited by ajjohnsonsoxfan; 03-04-2021 at 12:40 PM. |
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When did you buy this and from whom?
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(thought it was PWCC) after researching it's tcale6hgl seller on ebay. July 2020
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nvm
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Only July sale reported is this. And it's the same cert.
7/25/2020 $17,500.00 4.5 233657167852 eBay tcale6hgl Best Offer 27581063
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yes that's my purchase
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So one bad Leaf we can't blame on Brent LOL. Unless of course he sold it previously.
Which he did, actually. 9/28/2017 $4,000.00 eBay (pwcc_auctions) 401407466019
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I had multiple offers on ebay for around $40k and I've got an offer from a private party of $45k (which the buyer will write up if requested). Best case, PSA re-holders it (if deemed trimmed) and pays me out the difference of $17,500 and $45,000. ($27,500)
Or they can buy it outright at $45k. Steve or Joe if you're reading this...I'll wait by the phone.
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