1968 topps series 6

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

I am a believer that the 1967 Topps highs had a pattern whereby the Pinson row was printed 5x, the Rohr RC row was printed 4x, and the other five rows were printed 3x.

The 5 row sequence of slit B plus ebay counts over many months suggest that the rows headed by Ferrara, NL Rookies, Colavito, Checklist 7, and Belanger RC were all printed at the same frequency while the cards in the other two rows (Pinson, Ferrara) have higher quantities, with the Pinson row being much higher.

Obviously, without the bottom half of the 2nd slit from the 1967 highs available, the pattern can't be known unequivocally, and it is certainly possible that some other pattern may have been used, but there is circumstantial evidence to support that a 1x5, 1x4, and 5x3 print pattern was used. IMO

Thank you that is what I was getting at with my 5-4-3 comment. I'll wager this is somewhat similar. And, of course, the count to do verification helps as well.

Rich

[Kevvyg1026]

A quick look at the 1968 series 6 counts suggest a 4x3 & 3x4 pattern. Also, these two miscuts suggest that the row with Stephenson & Niekro is at bottom of 2nd slit.

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[toppcat]

Re 1967 highs, I think a 5X row, which seems to be supported by pop counts but still unverified of course, could have been the result of an issue in the final sheet layout, printing or it could be a planned 4/3 3/4 situation where one row differed greatly in cutting but not all cards suffered the same. For whatever reason this period of weird XP rows starts the same year of the plant move to Duryea (1966). Not sure why Topps would intentionally add a fifth row but that possibility remains as well.

[jmoran19]

Bored on a Friday morning, looking at the miscuts and doing the math same as the 132 card sheet shown above the missing 132 card sheet could be laid out as:

Rows 1 thru 5 = rows 5 (Frank R ) thru row 9 (Stephenson) on known 132 card sheet

Rows 6 thru 12 = rows 3 thru 9 on known sheet.

Rows 3 (row with player combo cards), 4 (Frank R CL) 6 (May) and 7 would be the cards printed 3 times (SP) on the 264 card sheet. Note the Frank R checklist was printed in series 5 too.

John

[Kevvyg1026]

Do you have other miscuts from this series? If so, can you post?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by jmoran19

Bored on a Friday morning, looking at the miscuts and doing the math same as the 132 card sheet shown above the missing 132 card sheet could be laid out as:

Rows 1 thru 5 = rows 5 (Frank R ) thru row 9 (Stephenson) on known 132 card sheet

Rows 6 thru 12 = rows 3 thru 9 on known sheet.

Rows 3 (row with player combo cards), 4 (Frank R CL) 6 (May) and 7 would be the cards printed 3 times (SP) on the 264 card sheet. Note the Frank R checklist was printed in series 5 too.

John

This is correct. I looked and looked for miscut cards from the 6th Series showing white at the top and finally found these from the Frank Robinson Row, two Frank Robinson cards, Nixon, Sims, and Davenport. I am also showing two cards from the Tracewski Row, Schaffer and the Cards Team card, that are at the top of the other Slit to show that they were made similarly. The other Slit goes:
Row 1 Frank Robinson
Row 2 Lee May
Row 3 Bill Bryan
Row 4 Dick Tracewski
Row 5 Jerry Stephenson
Row 6 Bruce Von Hoff
Row 7 Checklist 6
Row 8 Frank Robinson
Row 9 Lee May
Row 10 Bill Bryan
Row 11 Dick Tracewski
Row 12 Jerry Stephenson

[jmoran19]

So I’m not as crazy as u all thought LOL

[deweyinthehall]

So, if this is correct, and this is the arrangement of cards on the other 6th series slit, then we have this scenario:

For every 4 specimens printed of the cards in the Robinson, Tracewski, and Stephensen rows, only 3 were printed of the cards in the May, Bryan, Von Hoff and 6th series checklist rows.

If this is so, having just finished my '68 set, it would account for all the scarcities I came across/paid through the nose for (particularly McNally, Agee, Tsitouris, May, Odom, Al Jackson, Dillman and Sparma).

But, a lot of those in the slightly scarcer rows, under this scenario, seem to have no premium attached, at least from what I recently observed.

I wonder whether there were production or distribution issues with the 6th series generally because overall, they seemed harder to find than the 7th.