Hey, pennant guys

[bocca001]

Sorry, Greg. I'm sure it will all work out in the end. Clear fake.

Maybe post a nice pic of the horror show face for us so we can see it up close.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by bocca001

Sorry, Greg. I'm sure it will all work out in the end. Clear fake.

Maybe post a nice pic of the horror show face for us so we can see it up close.

I already packed it away, expecting to mail it back. But he’s not budging so I have to go through eBay protection. This guy has no shame ... he now admits that it is handmade but says that’s different from *homemade*. LOL. He’s hanging his hat on something from KB’s blog about the very first ever pennants being handmade. What a piece of excrement. He knows it’s a fake.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

I already packed it away, expecting to mail it back. But he’s not budging so I have to go through eBay protection. This guy has no shame ... he now admits that it is handmade but says that’s different from *homemade*. LOL. He’s hanging his hat on something from KB’s blog about the very first ever pennants being handmade. What a piece of excrement. He knows it’s a fake.

Unfortunately for him the very first pennants weren’t made in 1962.

[Domer05]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Unfortunately for him the very first pennants weren’t made in 1962.

EXACTLY! Yes, the very first pennants ever made likely came from mom's sewing machine ... but that was in 1904, before felt novelty pennants were commercially available in every college town! This pennant is in an entirely different league being a) screen printed; b) for a professional sports team; and c) made in the 1960s. Any suggestion that my BLOG supports his notion that it was commonplace for such a contemporary pennant to be homemade--and using vinyl lettering no less--is laughable.

Nobody would do that in 1962 ... not for a $0.50 souvenir!

The only person that would spend the type of time and money it took to re-create this is someone who understands the contemporary value of that pennant today, which I suppose is closer to ... $500? Which means it was likely made last month...

I'm sorry Greg. Send me a PM with the seller's contact and I'll be glad to challenge him on any of this if you think it'd help resolve this sooner.

[thetahat]

Closure ... so eBay notified me that I was entitled to a refund and told me to return. About as clear-cut of a fake memorabilia case as you’d find. Special thanks to KB for helping. The seller then sent me this, apparently his feelings were hurt. Awww..... don’t try to pull a fast one on your buyers in the first place and you won’t be called out for it. He never did acknowledge the voided sale to Rob just minutes before my purchase. I don’t believe for a second he didn’t exactly know what he was doing.

As a side note, in 20+ years of buying this is the first such experience with a shady seller. I’ve been lucky.

[perezfan]

If you don't want your feelings to be hurt, do not rip people off. He should seriously apply for a position with PSA.

Glad you got your refund quickly. His preaching to you about the legitimacy of a vintage pennant was akin to Mr. Magoo telling Mario Andretti how to drive.

[thetahat]

Our buddy just sold a Packers pennant ... at least he’s pleading ignorance in his description ... but look at the spine on this one. Yikes! (Otherwise looks original but who knows.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Green-Bay-P...p&LH_Auction=1

EDIT: This is also full-blown fake. Look around the edges of the letters and graphic. Looks like they have been cut out and pasted. So he knows but covers his tracks by saying “it could be homemade”. Posted it cheap, someone bought it right away probably without reading carefully. No doubt he’ll fight the buyer if he is unhappy.

(Oh and he offered this to me after I bought the fake Texans pennant ... for $175.)