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If it were me and I was having issues to the extent you are having them I'd get my ass over to 175 Varick Street.
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Look at the material In their auction and the location. Since they were long term collectors, I would start thinking of all the long term collectors and PT dealers in the area. I can think of many. All this would come out in a law suit though and maybe your first round of discovery would answer your questions.
Search some old threads where some of the auction items were sold. Then see who posted it. Many collectors love showing off what they have as it’s like playing show and tell. I know I enjoy seeing and showing items. Wish I could help more, but that’s the danger doing business with an unproven auction company.
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Since they admit to having an office in Manhattan and NYC requires auctioneers to be licensed through the Department of Consumer Affairs https://www1.nyc.gov/nycbusiness/des...ioneer-license), it may be worth while to call them up to see what info you can get.
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Elite collectors????
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Got It !!
."" He has personally bought and sold nearly 3,000,000 baseball cards in his life.""
So my question is........can anyone decipher or crack the code as to who this principal owner could be??? '''' Hey I can't be the only one here who figured out it was Leon..... .. |
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FFS the internet where every moron can post their batshit crazy conspiracy and act like it has any merit. No chance they are owners.
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I know everyone will be shocked by this, but when they lookup New York City Auctioneers Licenses under "Crazy Uncle" or "Aaron Rothchild", here are the results...…………………. Your search returned no results. Please modify your search criteria and try again. Last edited by CJDave; 08-11-2020 at 03:46 PM. |
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I see that tucows owns the domain name of crazyuncleauctions.com
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I'm late to this thread, but I've never heard of an anonymous auction house. I'd be hard pressed to do high dollar business with an auction house that doesn't have an established track record or one that appears to be shrouded in such mystery.
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Dave, I'm fascinated by this development. To state the obvious: Does this mean CU held an illegal auction in NY State? I bet the DA of the Southern District would get more of a reaction from them than this board has managed.
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John, from my understanding, NY State does not have an auction license requirement, but NYC does. So I would guess the actual location would be important. Manhattan (Varick St) would fall under NYC, but White Plains for instance would not.
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And in Aaron's own words......We are located at 175 Varick Street in Manhattan and available to meet in the Tri-State area or at the office by appointment. We have our warehouse in White Plains, NY. Since you run an auction through an office and not through a warehouse, that would mean they should have a license since the office is located in New York City. Am I incorrect in my thought process? Last edited by CJDave; 08-11-2020 at 05:30 PM. |
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For what its worth 175 Varick Street is mainly a WeWork location.. its a office share rental you can do daily monthly etc... My guess he just used it as a mailing address...
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Hello Dave,
As others have said, sorry about the troubles. I know I would be pretty upset if this had happened to me. I am not doubting your story but I am confused about your asking for info and guidance on a chat board when you claim to have the authorities involved as well as lawyers. I would think with those connections, absolutely anything you wanted to know about the process of recovery to background info on Aaron, would be easily available through those means. Dunno maybe I am missing something but I am puzzled. Hope this works out for you. Chase
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Soup sandwich. Meet trainwreck. It's looking more and more like nobody comes out of this in good shape. Personally, I'm still waiting for the curve ball.
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If their main address for business is NYC, you might be able to make that argument that they did an unlicensed auction. I don't know how much that helps you even if they did. That is a question for an attorney.
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BS auction house
With so many good auction houses available that have a track record, why would anyone consign to this loser outfit????
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Why give progress updates to your adversaries in this case? They know you're coming for your stuff and money, so why let them know how close to them you are, what difficulties you're running into, or what direction you're coming from? You're talking huge money here. Beyond your recovery, charges could potentially result, depending what has and will happen. |
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I have found this thread fascinating to read and I am sorry for your losses. But it isn't hard to imagine lawyers (for CU) studying every word of this thread, looking for soft spots.
Decades ago I heard a phrase I have never forgotten: You don't have an erasure at the end of your tongue. Over the years I have bitten my tongue many times! Take out the word tongue and insert the word fingertips. Once your words are in print here they could be used against you down the road. I wish you the best in this matter AND the best of both physical AND mental health. |
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It's been 6 weeks. Any update on this situation?
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I would hope his lawyer is on top of this, and I suspect he/she probably is and it's why we haven't heard every single detail.
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Their website hasn't been updated since June. There's an address listed for Harrison NY not NYC and their phone # goes to VM. So hopefully CU is done, but unfortunately compensation for their consignor seems unlikely.
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Shyster gonna Shyster
I don't have a dog in this hunt but these guys either clearly can't handle the auction business, don't care about customer service, or are that usual run of the mill low brow human who takes advantage of people because they are weak and have no integrity.
Same thing happened in my industry (finance) and what we learned was the only thing that works is licensing requirements and jail time for these dumbfucks. Fiduciary responsibility should never be taken lightly, or to quote my dad, "you gotta make sure the pots right before you deal the hand". |
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Welcome to the board; please list your name since you're expressing opinions.
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Dave, truly hope your lawyers have some clue of who these jokers are and has some leads as to where your property and money might be. I can only think that this nasty episode must be unendurable. Justice must be served.
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Crazy Uncle = Keyser Soze?
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A lawsuit has been filed. I have the complaint. I dont know a way to post it. And maybe Dave doesn’t want it posted.
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This is insane. I would NEVER trust a start up. I understand the OP wanting to give someone a chance, but do it with $300-$500 worth of cards. 6-7 figures worth of stuff is INSANE!!!!!
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I hope for your sake Aaron isn’t judgment proof.
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https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=295222
Bump for new thread connection.
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Reminiscent of Doug Allen and Legendary auctions after Mastro went bankrupt. New name, same game.
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I actually bid with and won with Legendary. They were a good, straight up auction house, and WOULD have been successful if they hadn't been buried under the stigma of being associated with Mastro.
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As mentioned above, I started a separate thread on “Dutch Auctions”, which sent me an unsolicited email about their new auction house, Dutch Auction Shop. I looked at the address at the bottom and it was the very same one listed for Aaron Rothschild with Crazy Uncle.
The website makes no mention of who is running the auction, so I suspect Aaron doesn’t want to get his name dragged in the mud again after what happened with Crazy Uncle. Which, to my knowledge, never came to a public resolution. Several hours later after posting about the address, I get another email exactly the same content, but with the address changed. I have no personal vendetta against Aaron. My auction experience with Crazy Uncle was a bit strange but I was not affected. But I am making all of this aware for the people who did have issues with Aaron and may want to know about this new endeavor. |
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I wonder if any of the items in this new auction actually belong to Dave?
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Wut?
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This very memorable thread just popped into my head today. Does anyone know if there was a resolution for the OP? I truly hope that things are made right, as much as is possible after such a mess.
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