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Aha... the provided pic is rather small. Will search it on eBay... thanks!
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He butchered those .....I know this set very well, borders were never meant to be that thin. Total disgrace from Newport Beach :-(
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Moser is on his way to legendary status.
A true pioneer and villain of the hobby. |
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im screen shot dosnt do it justice, the border color just looks wrong to me
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He is a cancer to the hobby. He will definitely do some time.
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130K gain on this one from a little color filling on the top border and under the E in Henry and it looks like a couple of other places -- from the rough cuts must be the same card, not to mention someone who knows and I trust told me they were the same card.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7123-80860.s https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...a/7215-80321.s
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Closeups. Sorry I am sure someone could do this better.
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In PSA's defense, I'm not sure how anyone could detect those alterations. I'm looking at the two cards magnified and still would not be able to detect this one.
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Unlike many of the recently exposed (and easily identified) hack-jobs, that one looks REALLY sophisticated. Some meticulous work by that particular Doctor.
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Was print also removed on Hanks Face Peter ? Or is that from the scans ? airbrush?
My question is what is happening at these PSA invitational Events ??? From what I’m told, from a good source, is that you get to discuss things on your cards with the graders !!! WTF......how can this be allowed to happen. It sounds like insider trading to me......another Rarely Mentioned Dark Secret of this Rigged Uber Crooked Industry .......:-( This Dark Secret Should Also Be Displayed Along with the uncovered Dr. Cards in holders at every major Cards show. It’s been said that less then one percent of the people know about the scandal and discovered outed cards....... this is one good way to make that percentage increase Drastically Disgraceful and par for the course Last edited by Johnny630; 11-17-2019 at 01:18 PM. |
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This type of restoration work is common in the comic book world and the comic industry’s TPG leader CGC goes into great detail on this subject. I trust that CGC has true professional graders who can detect the most sophisticated work. PSA not so much. Comics are way ahead of the game in this restoration subject.
Safe to say if you get a great comic restoration professional working on cards it’s likely going to pass card TPG’s. |
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It's hard to tell from the scans, but I think it's probably a very light trim at the top, and maybe removing a bit of debris from the card, which might not even have been stuck on.
The second scan is a bit blurry, but counting the dots between the name and border gives 16 on the before, and 15 maybe 15 1/2 on the after. (Going from the right tip of the N) If that bit below the name isn't just a few stray fibers and is a scratch, the work done is amazing. Recoloring the Orange wouldn't be all that difficult, doing that and fixing the dot pattern so it doesn't show is. |
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That's the point! They can't, with the current methods they use. So they should stop giving the impression they can. They won't (of course) which is why IMO high grade slabbed vintage cards is the colossal fraud it is.
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So someone spends $55k on a card, cracks it, restores it themself or trusts someone enough to have it restored all without knowing FOR SURE that its going to get a bump in grade?
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Why would you assume they don't know what grade they are going to receive?
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To know what grade you are going to get from PSA would require someone at PSA to be in on the deal would it not?
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One Word Leaves Me Very Suspicious Please read my last post for my theory Last edited by Johnny630; 11-17-2019 at 06:51 PM. |
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We need a new thread of Mt. Rushmore of trimmed/altered cards.
The aaron would be there etc |
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How about a Mt Rushmore of the most crooked dealers and well known card doctors.
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That Annie Oakley Card is the most disgusting 9 I’ve ever seen. Cut short and majorly tilted ......how rigged is their opinion ? What line won’t they cross.....what won’t money buy...obviously all is fair game in this crooked industry.
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There's no business like the card business.
Gary's a bad, bad man.
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Can't they immediately see that the borders are waaaaaaaay thinner side to side, than top-to-bottom? This is about the 500th example, in which an immediate glance tells you its trimmed. Either PSA is spending ZERO time examining these cards, or someone there is in cahoots with these deceitful and shameless butchers.
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Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere's Johnny
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There are millions of graded cards and a significant portion likely is altered, although what that number is is anyone's guess. They (BODA) cannot possibly review even a fraction and for most of those no prior scan is going to exist. They've done a remarkable job to make as many connections as they have, but the vast vast majority of altered cards are IMO not capable of being outed by this process.
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Here is a link to the article that calls out alleged trimmers. There are links to other articles and pictures of alleged trimmers. It’s a quick and easy read. Worthwhile. I have no idea about the article’s accuracy and have no comment regarding same.
http://www.sportscardradio.com/anony...-trimmer-list/ |
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No, it's from a few months ago.
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Yep, old news.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...portscardradio
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At this point who believes PSA is not in on this at some level ???
Nothing will change....I’ve said this before they have a Teflon Non Stick Business. PSA, Auction Houses, Major Dealers, and EBay sellers/ consigners will continue to make money hand over fist it’s all Baked in. People Are Hooked and Brainwashed by the slab/registry...altered or not it doesn’t Matter once it’s in a holder. Nothing is going to change many don’t know, wanna know or care. It will blow over like it always has. Last edited by Johnny630; 11-20-2019 at 07:05 AM. |
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IMHO only a complete fool and it has been that way for a very long time. It is fun to watch all the people who make tons of $ off their slabs make excuses. Especially since most of them are in on "it".
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Yes you’re right sir they do !!! They know it’s a racket.
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Why dont you say again how all of this involves cards under $10,000.00 so who cares...ill pull the quote for you. plus are you insinuating i a a jew. (comment about bar mitzvah) Lets not get into the religious talk when its about card board. Yes the context does not look bad, but still, not sure why a high priced attorney would try his great wit even touching a religious theme.....and it doesnt matter what affiliation you are...you shouldnt go there.. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 11-20-2019 at 08:35 AM. |
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Finally, if you're so upset about this purported non-scandal -- you claim that it's not a big deal because no lawsuits have been brought -- why don't you bring one on behalf of the many victims who have surely flocked to you due to your posts which reflect your legal acumen? Surely by now many victims who have lost more than 10K on trimmed cards would have called your mom's house looking for you.
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