|
|
#1
|
||||
|
||||
New information for once: "All the grading card companies have seen our Marketplace Tenets. They have read our stance on conservation vs. alteration. And all that was done in the weeks to months before us actually posting it." He doesn't say that any of them have ratified those or even given their opinions on it. Radio silence sure is saying something to me; not to him I guess.
1952 Mantle discussion (18 min): "I've only seen it [the before picture] once." "Before and after pictures are not evidence." Hah. WTTE of "Physical evidence has to be on the card, or first hand statement from the submitter has to occur in order to disclose the conservation." Well, this is not really true. "Conservation is not something that has to be disclosed." They will not stop an auction if a card for sale shows "conservation" in a before picture. Just keep digging, Brent.
__________________
-- PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head PSA: Regularly Get Cheated BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern SGC: Closed auto authentication business JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC Oh, what a difference a year makes. |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
Man, people here used to defend him by the droves, where are they?
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 05-19-2019 at 07:29 PM. |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
ETA: So I guess all those autographed T206s that were shown with before and after pictures would still be good in his world then?
__________________
I'm always looking for t206's with purple numbers stamped on the back like the one in my avatar. The Great T206 Back Stamp Project: Click Here My Online Trading Site: Click Here Member of OBC (Old Baseball Cards), the longest running on-line collecting club www.oldbaseball.com My Humble Blog: Click Here Last edited by CobbSpikedMe; 05-19-2019 at 08:46 PM. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Right, as long as his clinic of doctors don't get caught by PSA, it would be considered Conserved.
|
#5
|
|||
|
|||
[QUOTE=swarmee;1879322]New information for once: "All the grading card companies have seen our Marketplace Tenets. They have read our stance on conservation vs. alteration. And all that was done in the weeks to months before us actually posting it." He doesn't say that any of them have ratified those or even given their opinions on it. Radio silence sure is saying something to me; not to him I guess.
So maybe the TPG's have read his "Tenets." Sounds like he has the gall to consider himself "the authority" that his word shall be beholden as sportscard gospel and how "assets" should be sold. Who gave him the title? Is he the new "Lord of Sportscards?" In my opinion he seems to have a high opinion of himself...
__________________
Successful B/S/T deals with asoriano, obcbobd, x2dRich2000, eyecollectvintage, RepublicaninMass, Kwikford, Oneofthree67, jfkheat, scottglevy, whitehse, GoldenAge50s, Peter Spaeth, Northviewcats, megalimey, BenitoMcNamara, Edwolf1963, mightyq, sidepocket, darwinbulldog, jasonc, jessejames, sb1, rjackson44, bobbyw8469, quinnsryche, Carter08, philliesfan and ALBB, Buythatcard and JimmyC so far. Last edited by chalupacollects; 05-20-2019 at 08:41 AM. Reason: Typo |
#6
|
||||
|
||||
[QUOTE=chalupacollects;1879434]
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
FRANK:BUR:KETT - RAUCOUS SPORTS CARD FORUM MEMBER AND MONSTER NUMBER FATHER. GOOD FOR THE HOBBY AND THE FORUM WITH A VAULT IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION FILLED WITH NON-FUNGIBLES 274/1000 Monster Number Nearly*1000* successful B/S/T transactions completed from 2012 to 2024. Over 680 sales with satisfied Board members served. If you want fries with your order, just speak up. Thank you all. Now nearly PQ. |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
Watching the video
I don't think i have shaken my head so often and said you are full of shit more times in one hour in my entire life. I can not disagree more than i do with 99% of what he says. I had used them several times to sell for me. i don't think i will ever again. i just can't in good conscience despite the strong prices i received and the relatively quick payments. i am in this for the long haul and i don't think what he is trying to do is helpful for the hobby. I'll stick with REA and a couple other reputable sellers to consign with.
|
#8
|
||||
|
||||
Most of you folks are a lot more patient than I am. I made it to the 8 minute mark before the steam was shooting out my ears, and I had to shut it down.
|
#9
|
||||
|
||||
I listened to most of the rest of it at work this morning. I was glad he owned up to being a fence ("front" in his terms) for bad actors, but it seems he won't out anyone who confesses, apologizes, and reimburses those who were scammed. He believes all of these criminals are worthy of staying in the hobby as long as they promise not to do it again...
He says that he is working to identify "conservators" who he can point people to in order to improve the look of their cards, and anyone who thinks this is alteration just needs to "mature" like other markets. He didn't say if Dick Towle was on that list. Things I do agree with that he said: the bad actor information needs to be freely shared between auction houses and grading companies so this doesn't become a case of "pass the trash." He referenced the plan that blowout member Superdan is working to catalog all these altered cards onto a website so that the info doesn't get lost to internet losses. I disagree that the six to eight already outed by Blowout are redeemable in the hobby, and I would love for Brent to turn over his information on their consignments to law enforcement.
__________________
-- PWCC: The Fish Stinks From the Head PSA: Regularly Get Cheated BGS: Can't detect trimming on modern SGC: Closed auto authentication business JSA: Approved same T206 Autos before SGC Oh, what a difference a year makes. |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
He's doing so many good things for the hobby, I don't understand what the problem is.
__________________
http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/sets |
#11
|
||||
|
||||
Lol
Quote:
The interview had me between laughing and yelling at the screen. I didn't get when he said nobody has accused them of wrongdoing. I think we both know someone who has. Last edited by glynparson; 05-20-2019 at 10:50 AM. |
#12
|
||||
|
||||
You mean the investment community.
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
Quote:
__________________
My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Brent Huigens - PWCC. Do you really want to keep this game up? I'm ready boss. | Whodunit | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 246 | 07-02-2018 05:52 AM |
PWCC Recent Closings | Exhibitman | Boxing / Wrestling Cards & Memorabilia Forum | 8 | 03-29-2018 04:05 PM |
Recent PWCC Auction | Snapolit1 | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 2 | 09-08-2016 12:50 PM |
Brent at PWCC...EBay update ? | Stonepony | Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions | 0 | 01-08-2016 12:20 PM |
Brent Butcher are you out there? | Archive | Everything Else, Football, Non-Sports etc.. B/S/T | 3 | 10-18-2006 06:37 PM |