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Old 01-29-2019, 06:21 PM
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sure looks legit to me...congrats Ronnie!
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:24 PM
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sure looks legit to me...congrats Ronnie!
Thanks Pete!!
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:24 PM
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When we first discussed the Walsh here in 2012, we (the ones who held it) had said it looked like Polar Bear blue (as noted, it was darker than Piedmont). Appears the same with this Powell.

This hi-res overlapped photos are incredibly detailed. Very cool analysis and presentation.

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Old 01-29-2019, 06:47 PM
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Here's one more. This is on the flatbed scanner at 1200dpi.
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Old 01-29-2019, 06:53 PM
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One more on the flatbed scanner. It's odd that it looks closer to the Piedmont on the Flatbed and more like the Polar Bear on the microscope.
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That last pic is great Ron. It sure does look polar bear(ish) and pretty much proves it’s not piedmont blue.

Now I am no expert (not even close) at when certain backs are issued, so this is a genuine question - were polar bears printed with the same subjects as old mill? Does it matter? I guess my question is, as Ted suggested with Piedmont, is it plausible, based on print groups, that they could have run polar bears and then switched over to old mills without changing ink?
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That last pic is great Ron. It sure does look polar bear(ish) and pretty much proves it’s not piedmont blue.

Now I am no expert (not even close) at when certain backs are issued, so this is a genuine question - were polar bears printed with the same subjects as old mill? Does it matter? I guess my question is, as Ted suggested with Piedmont, is it plausible, based on print groups, that they could have run polar bears and then switched over to old mills without changing ink?
Interesting question. As far as I know, there were no Polar Bear backs printed in Print Group 1 but I don't know where the cut-off date Print Group 1 Old Mills were printed up to and where Polar Bears started.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:31 PM
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Another thought I'll throw out there... Maybe the Blue Old Mill is from a T59 Flags ink batch or even the birds and fish cards. I have a few thousand T59's and a few hundred of the birds and fish. Maybe I need to compare to some of them also.
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Ron and Ryan

I considered the POLAR BEAR darker ink (vs the PIEDMONT blue). However, the timeline does not favor the POLAR BEAR ink.

As you know, the Powell & Walsh are 150/350 series subjects which were in OLD MILL print runs circa late 1909 / early 1910.
The first POLAR BEAR print runs were circa Summer 1910.

Great work there, Ron.


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Old 01-31-2019, 02:20 AM
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Default Blue OLD MILL

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Comparing the blue ink with a PIEDMONT 150 back's ink was the smart thing to do. Your analysis is spot on, Ron.

This confirms what I suggested earlier in this game. And, in my opinion it is an authentic T206.

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Ron and Ryan

I considered the POLAR BEAR darker ink (vs the PIEDMONT blue). However, the timeline does not favor the POLAR BEAR ink.

As you know, the Powell & Walsh are 150/350 series subjects which were in OLD MILL print runs circa late 1909 / early 1910.
The first POLAR BEAR print runs were circa Summer 1910.

Great work there, Ron.


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