To Catch a Signed T206 Forger

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by T206Collector

So when I try to contact Teri781 through eBay about item number 362228869475 I get an error message, but when I try to contact Teri781 about any of the other items on this sheet I can see the item and ask a question. What is going on here - am I misreading the id?

https://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...o=362228869527

My eBay name shows up on VCP as f***f. I have never used Worthpoint so I'm not sure what it shows as there. I have owned one T-206 card which I listed for sale here 2 1/2 years ago. I can send someone a card that I bought so they can check Worthpoint to see what my user name shows up as on there. I can assure everyone that the f***f is not me.
James

[SetBuilder]

Originally Posted by jfkheat

My eBay name shows up on VCP as f***f. I have never used Worthpoint so I'm not sure what it shows as there. I have owned one T-206 card which I listed for sale here 2 1/2 years ago. I can send someone a card that I bought so they can check Worthpoint to see what my user name shows up as on there. I can assure everyone that the f***f is not me.
James

Those user names are randomized or scrambled by eBay. They don't correspond to the actual user name.

[jfkheat]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Those user names are randomized or scrambled by eBay. They don't correspond to the actual user name.

I know that. My eBay user name is the same as my user name on this and several other forums. My user name always shows as f***f on VCP as the buyer.
James

[JeremyW]

Originally Posted by SetBuilder

Those user names are randomized or scrambled by eBay. They don't correspond to the actual user name.

I've always thought that the two letters that they do show are actually part of the username. Am I wrong about that?

[Laxcat]

Does anyone else think an “inside man” would be needed for this sort of forgery?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by JeremyW

I've always thought that the two letters that they do show are actually part of the username. Am I wrong about that?

It is, however I notice they differ on some auctions, but are changed back in VCP

[mrvster]

sucks!!! and now makes me suspicious of 206 autographed cards

[ALBB]

Incredible detective work on this

[Fred]

PSA and SGC have policies for false authentication. How does this work out for autographs?

Do you want to put some pressure on to find all of the people responsible?

If PSA, SGC and others (JSA) have some type of guarantee then hold them to the guarantee. Hit their bottom line. My guess is that it will do a couple things:

• Get them motivated to find the source of the problem
  
• Make them think twice about just slabbing something based on ONE highly regarded persons opinion

What would be interesting to find out is if there has been a HUGE increase in the number of submissions for signed T-cards in the past few years when compared to the prior years.

How many T206 cards were submitted? How many T205 cards were submitted? I would think that there would have been all kinds of T-cards submitted for authentication, not just T206.

PSA has a pop report for "just cards". Do they also have a pop report for "signed cards"? It would be interesting to see what cards have been authenticated and who the authenticator is. Also, how has the population increased over the years.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Fred

PSA has a pop report for "just cards". Do they also have a pop report for "signed cards"?

Yes, there is a link at the top of the set pop report that will take you to the bottom, where the PSA/DNA signed card pop report is.
https://www.psacard.com/pop/t206/#DNAPop

However, this is only for all Red Flips and Blue Flips more than 2 years old. Newer blue flips just have "Trading Card" at top; but for vintage signed cards, most would be currently submitted with red flip dual authentication service.