T206 Reference / Reflections.....Tuesday Nite Trivia

[tedzan]

I have not discussed the 1997 set yet. As I alluded to, it will be in a forthcoming post.

So, why you are asking.... " 2004 or 1997? "


TED Z
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[fduran27]

Ted - I am going to say $9,503.34

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I have not discussed the 1997 set yet. As I alluded to, it will be in a forthcoming post.

So, why you are asking.... " 2004 or 1997? "


TED Z
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thanks guy

[Bpm0014]

I've been putting a raw PR-G-VG-EX T206 set together from 2008-present. Currently at 512. Cost me roughly $40,000 so far. I have all 4 Cobbs, the Demmit and O'Hara, 2 signed Larry Doyles, a NY Joe Doyle partial NY, all the Southern Leaguers, etc. The remaining 8 or so are all readily available. I would be willing to bet that if you started today, the cost would be $50,000+

[tedzan]

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Brian....Rob....riggs336....Felipe....Brendan

I appreciate your responses and I will comment on them after I post this set here which I sold in 1997.


I started collecting T206 cards in 1981. And by the 1990's, I had put together a 521-card set. The overall grading of this set was Vg-Ex. The Demmitt and O'Hara were both Vg.
Also a Vg Magie, and it included 5 cards of Ty Cobb....green Cobb, Bat on, Bat off, red Cobb, and an Orange (red) Cobb.

So how much did I sell this set for in 1997 ? Once again, I leave it up to you to guess what this set sold for ? ?

I will reveal the $$$$$ amounts for my purchase in 2004 and this sale in 1997 in a subsequent post. Then we can compare our numbers here.



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TED Z
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[Bpm0014]

I will say you sold it for about $22,000

[Hellwig]

I was probably high in my last guess, so I’ll guess you sold this for $12,500 in 1997.

[KingFisk]

2004 - bought for $14,000
1997 - sold for $8,000

[tedzan]

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These six are examples of some of my nicer SOVEREIGN cards


OK, let's play this game again.... If I were to sell my complete all-SOVEREIGN set (402 cards), what price would you guess it would sell for ?

This set's overall condition averages Vg-Ex, with some of the stars being Ex.....see examples shown above and below.

Exactly 122 subjects in the basic 524 card T206 set were NOT printed with SOVEREIGN backs (Wagner, Plank, Lundgren, Demmitt, O'Hara,
Magie, Joe Doyle error, the 48 Southern Leaguers, etc.)


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TED Z
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[tedzan]

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These six T206's are samples of some of my nicer SOVEREIGN cards


I consider that a true complete SOVEREIGN set includes the Six Super Prints **......with the Sovereign 460 backs. Thus, my Sovereign set is actually complete with 408 cards.

During the Sovereign press runs, American Litho (ALC) introduced an intermediate series into the T206 set....the 350/460 series. ALC selected 6 subjects from the 350 series;
and, printed them with Sovereign 460 backs during the press runs of the Sovereign 460-only series.

FYI.... that the Sovereign 460 versions of these 6 subjects are considerably tougher to find relative to the regular 46 subjects in the 460-only series.


So guys, try guessing the selling price of this set with 402 cards......or, with 408 cards ?
Trust me, these 6 super-prints (with the Sovereign 460 back) go for "Big $$$$". Especially the red Cobb, which appears to be much tougher than the other 5 cards.


Shown here are these Six Super Prints with their SOVERIGN 350 backs and their SOVEREIGN 460 backs......

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** Note.. Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects
in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ".



TED Z
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[tedzan]

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Sample star cards in this PIEDMONT set...........


OK, so no one is interested in playing the "guessing game" with the SOVEREIGN set. I can understand that, as the SOVEREIGN set is complicated with all it's No-Prints.

So, how's about trying to guess what price my PIEDMONT set would sell for ? It's straight forward, as all 519 cards (includes MAGIE) in this set have PIEDMONT backs.
No Wagner, Plank, or Joe Doyle NY Nat'l. No Demmitt or O'Hara St Louis variations (printed only with POLAR BEAR backs). This set's condition ranges from Vg to Ex.

I look forward to your guesses....be reasonable with them

And, have a great time at the National this week......and, find some time to check-out the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame Museum near Lake Erie.





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TED Z
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[Bpm0014]

$50,000