20 retraction high bidder PWCC

[calvindog]

Are there any class action lawyers on the page?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Are there any class action lawyers on the page?

Kevin Quinn got banned, I think.

[Beastmode]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Are there any class action lawyers on the page?

I've been as vocal as anyone about these pricks with multiple retractions. Where I differ is where the blame lies.

Why not start with E-bay and demand that their completed sales reflect non-payments. This could be as simple as recording the sale after the item has been paid for and shipped, vs recording the sale at the end of the auction. This would take the sting out of the shillers and manipulators. For some of us, the real issue is the non-payment by the shiller.

Second, take this same approach to the AH's. Ask that they post when a winning lot has a non-payment (good luck). This would actually benefit them, as the shillers would have to pay the juice.

Asking PWCC to stand guard over this while the AH's hide in the weeds makes no sense. All we hear is crickets from the AH's, while PWCC is at least addressing the issue.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've been as vocal as anyone about these pricks with multiple retractions. Where I differ is where the blame lies.

Why not start with E-bay and demand that their completed sales reflect non-payments. This could be as simple as recording the sale after the item has been paid for and shipped, vs recording the sale at the end of the auction. This would take the sting out of the shillers and manipulators. For some of us, the real issue is the non-payment by the shiller.

Second, take this same approach to the AH's. Ask that they post when a winning lot has a non-payment (good luck). This would actually benefit them, as the shillers would have to pay the juice.

Asking PWCC to stand guard over this while the AH's hide in the weeds makes no sense. All we hear is crickets from the AH's, while PWCC is at least addressing the issue.

I would like to see all PWCC hammers be removed from VCP .... not sure if that is possible/ethical however.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Neal

I would like to see all PWCC hammers be removed from VCP .... not sure if that is possible/ethical however.

If you are so inclined, it's pretty easy just to discount them, so not sure I really see the issue. Like gymnastics, throw out the high score.

[Neal]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

If you are so inclined, it's pretty easy just to discount them, so not sure I really see the issue. Like gymnastics, throw out the high score.

easy for a buyer, but not for the seller

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I've been as vocal as anyone about these pricks with multiple retractions. Where I differ is where the blame lies.

Why not start with E-bay and demand that their completed sales reflect non-payments. This could be as simple as recording the sale after the item has been paid for and shipped, vs recording the sale at the end of the auction. This would take the sting out of the shillers and manipulators. For some of us, the real issue is the non-payment by the shiller.

Second, take this same approach to the AH's. Ask that they post when a winning lot has a non-payment (good luck). This would actually benefit them, as the shillers would have to pay the juice.

Asking PWCC to stand guard over this while the AH's hide in the weeds makes no sense. All we hear is crickets from the AH's, while PWCC is at least addressing the issue.

John- Good luck with this, you're pissing in a fan. Ebay doesn't give a shit, period. This topic has been going on for 7 or 8 years, maybe longer...And how is PWCC addressing the issue exactly? This seems simple to me, two offenses and you're warned, the third you're out of here....Is that difficult?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

John- Good luck with this, you're pissing in a fan. Ebay doesn't give a shit, period. This topic has been going on for 7 or 8 years, maybe longer...And how is PWCC addressing the issue exactly? This seems simple to me, two offenses and you're warned, the third you're out of here....Is that difficult?

Kevin is right; Ebay doesn't give a crap.


http://live.autographmagazine.com/pr...-shill-bidding

[Jeffrompa]

Will never happen , just wait for the indictments .

[bbcardzman]

[QUOTE=thetruthisoutthere;1694803]Kevin is right; Ebay doesn't give a crap.


Everyone knows eBay doesn't give a crap about anything but $$$$, ever hear of BATTLEFIELD0516???

[Buythatcard]

eBay does give a crap.

Here is where they don't give a crap. On more than one occasion I've had non payers. I can't leave them negative feedback but I can give them a strike (does nothing).

Here is where they do give a crap. Since leaving a strike does nothing, I leave them positive feedback in caps saying that the buyer is a Non Payer. I have received 2 warnings from eBay saying that I can't say anything negative in my feedback about the Buyer. They told me it was against their policies and they then removed the comment.

See, I told you that eBay gives a crap.

[RedsFan1941]

even though ebay has tried to reinvent itself as being like amazon (discouraging auctions and encouraging straight sales and seller stores), ebay falls incredibly short when it comes to customer service. the other day i had an issue with not receiving merchandise from an amazon seller and opened a claim online. within 2 hours amazon responded saying my money was being refunded. this isn't the first time amazon has responded quickly to a problem. ebay seems to want to be amazon without doing a large part of the heavy lifting.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Buythatcard

eBay does give a crap.

Here is where they don't give a crap. On more than one occasion I've had non payers. I can't leave them negative feedback but I can give them a strike (does nothing).

Here is where they do give a crap. Since leaving a strike does nothing, I leave them positive feedback in caps saying that the buyer is a Non Payer. I have received 2 warnings from eBay saying that I can't say anything negative in my feedback about the Buyer. They told me it was against their policies and they then removed the comment.

See, I told you that eBay gives a crap.