PWCC's 1936 Goudey World Wide Gum DiMaggio PSA 7

[Whodunit]

Phillipabbot, how do you argue with that level of stupid from david? He cant comprehend bidding to win, finding out it was dr'd, stopping bidding for0 that reason and then being asked to top the bid and "i assure you that you will be outbid". I tried to fill him in on timestamps, but even that didnt help. My guess is he hit his head extremely hard on a truck moving in excess of 60mph.

Im working on exporting the rest of the conversation, but what is dated the 8th was essentially the last time i texted him.......asking for the 60k inv (of which i still have not received).....trigger....betsy.

What is prior to the shots ive shown tonight go much deeper than the dimaggio. My guess is that not only will they be shown here, they will be subpoenaed in court as my attorneys have already done so for my phone (same # for 17 yrs).

As for multiple ebay ids, i have 2 accts and my wife has one. I use all 3 accts in an effort to keep people from knowing what all im bidding on. Evay id letters are easy to follow, which is why many of us have multiple accts and change ids monthly.......it keeps the investigators in the hobby off our scent. It's hardly a new idea or frowned upon idea. Both of my accts are linked to one paypal acct and all you need is a new email to set up as many accts as you want.

Again, this is not about losing 25-30k on a card; that's happened many times, it's about being lied to and fraud. If i didnt have my tracks covered 110%, with all ive thrown at brent today, id have kept my mouth shut for legal reasons. However, he's in for the fight of his life, he just hasnt been "served"......yet.

That said, watch out brent. ;-)

[Kenny Cole]

IMO, this thread is very disappointing and disheartening to those of us who simply want to buy the cards we are interested in without paying too much or thinking we got shilled. That is true at any level of the purchase, Too bad. I personally think both parties suck and have zero respect for both.

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by Kenny Cole

IMO, this thread is very disappointing and disheartening to those of us who simply want to buy the cards we are interested in without paying too much or thinking we got shilled. That is true at any level of the purchase, Too bad. I personally think both parties suck and have zero respect for both.

This x infinity!

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

ph.

Im working on exporting the rest of the conversation, but what is dated the 8th was essentially the last time i texted him.......asking for the 60k inv (of which i still have not received).....trigger....betsy.
.

-)

Just to clear this portion, IF you got an invoice for 60k, would you be paying it? (You keep saying you have not received it yet and some may think that is why you may not have paid)

[Whodunit]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Just to clear this portion, IF you got an invoice for 60k, would you be paying it? (You keep saying you have not received it yet and some may think that is why you may not have paid)

I've been waiting on that invoice for quite a while so that I could pay it. Also, please have Brent explain why he's marked the items "paid" on ebay which therefor won't allow me to pay for them in any way other than gift or wire - which obviously isn't going to happen due to the circumstances. Betsy wants to talk about something she knows nothing about, and something that Brent is hiding from her, and has obviously decided not to pursue that avenue as I've asked several times via email and text for the invoice and now posted screenshots of it on here.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

I've been waiting on that invoice for quite a while so that I could pay it. Also, please have Brent explain why he's marked the items "paid" on ebay which therefor won't allow me to pay for them in any way other than gift or wire - which obviously isn't going to happen due to the circumstances. Betsy wants to talk about something she knows nothing about, and something that Brent is hiding from her, and has obviously decided not to pursue that avenue as I've asked several times via email and text for the invoice and now posted screenshots of it on here.

I dont understand the reasoning and significant behind what your point is about items 'paid' and what that means. Whats the impact again of having you be able to pay it on ebay. What is your contention why its marked paid. I agree it seems shady as i have never won anything on ebay and the seller mark it paid and deliver items (i assuming you got items ) to me before i paid for them.

You may of explained it before and you can repost it if you did.

Plus if you arent going to pay for it now which i imply based on your 'obviously isnt going to happen due to the circumstances' comment, then why does the invoice matter if you arent going to pay anyway

Perhaps you won items, and he never delivered them to you and he canceled the deal as well

[Rookiemonster]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I dont understand the reasoning and significant behind what your point is about items 'paid' and what that means. Whats the impact again of having you be able to pay it on ebay. What is your contention why its marked paid. I agree it seems shady as i have never won anything on ebay and the seller mark it paid and deliver items (i assuming you got items ) to me before i paid for them.

You may of explained it before and you can repost it if you did.

Plus if you arent going to pay for it now which i imply based on your 'obviously isnt going to happen due to the circumstances' comment, then why does the invoice matter if you arent going to pay anyway

Perhaps you won items, and he never delivered them to you and he canceled the deal as well

Aaaaahhhhhh that's what you think he's referring to? At this point it seems obvious that Courtney must have been involved in some shilly business. So when he shilled a item and won it under orders from "the higher ups" he was not expected to pay for the shilled items.

Shill
The next question should be what did Courtney get for his excellent shilling skills?

[Whodunit]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I dont understand the reasoning and significant behind what your point is about items 'paid' and what that means. Whats the impact again of having you be able to pay it on ebay. What is your contention why its marked paid. I agree it seems shady as i have never won anything on ebay and the seller mark it paid and deliver items (i assuming you got items ) to me before i paid for them.

You may of explained it before and you can repost it if you did.

Plus if you arent going to pay for it now which i imply based on your 'obviously isnt going to happen due to the circumstances' comment, then why does the invoice matter if you arent going to pay anyway

Perhaps you won items, and he never delivered them to you and he canceled the deal as well

Please read the entire comment before responding.
1) Brent marked the cards paid before my paying for them; I have not received the cards. If he cancelled the purchase due to a non-payment, why was I not blocked for being a non-paying bidder? Also, why did I wire him 250K the month prior for another agreement? All of this is simple, elementary logic.
2) I stated that since the cards were marked "paid", that ebay or paypal doesn't allow you to pay them "again". That being the case, the only method of payment that falls within the ebay/paypal buyer/seller protection guidelines is not available to me since he's marked them as already paid. My only option now is to pay via wire or paypal gift. THAT is what I said was not going to happen....paying him a disclosed amount with no accounting in place to document it.
3) Therefor, I have asked on multiple occasions for a PAYPAL INVOICE detailing what the $59,310 was for and STATED THAT IT would be paid immediately.

My guess is he knows I've got him by the balls here and wants to be able to throw rocks at me for this "unpaid debt" that they referenced. I owe them $59,310. I'm not disputing that. Get them to invoice me, and I'll screenshot a picture of the payment min's later.

Do I need to detail that any further b/c it seems pretty cut and dry to me? I can't pay what he marked paid b/c ebay won't let me. I'm not going to wire them when they're bashing me due to a "very large unpaid debt" even though he and I have worked off of wires for over 5 years. This particular case is a little different; wouldnt you agree? Again, I've asked for an invoice on multiple occasions and he refuses to send it to me. The last time I asked (2/8/17) was actually 2 min's after he said "you need to worry about what you owe us and not.....". In that screenshot, I asked again for an invoice and have yet to get one. I would absolutely love for Brent/Betsy to provide "proof" of something that can dispute ANY of what I've said or am saying. Again, I'm not going to put myself in a legal jam by saying things that aren't true about someone or a company. However, when I have the proof, and when you lie to me and piss me off bad enough, I will go to the ends of the earth to unearth the last thing on the planet that he wants you guys to see.

Again, if you're going to question me on something I've already stated, please at least make sure you've read the entire post and not simply skimmed through it.

I'm beginning to think that you and David are on the same team here and no matter what one says, you're going to try and find a way to spin it in another direction, or intentionally manipulate or overlook SHOWN FACTS.

If the latter is the case, STFU and quit responding to my posts.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

Please read the entire comment before responding.
1) Brent marked the cards paid before my paying for them; I have not received the cards. If he cancelled the purchase due to a non-payment, why was I not blocked for being a non-paying bidder? Also, why did I wire him 250K the month prior for another agreement? All of this is simple, elementary logic.
2) I stated that since the cards were marked "paid", that ebay or paypal doesn't allow you to pay them "again". That being the case, the only method of payment that falls within the ebay/paypal buyer/seller protection guidelines is not available to me since he's marked them as already paid. My only option now is to pay via wire or paypal gift. THAT is what I said was not going to happen....paying him a disclosed amount with no accounting in place to document it.
3) Therefor, I have asked on multiple occasions for a PAYPAL INVOICE detailing what the $59,310 was for and STATED THAT IT would be paid immediately.

My guess is he knows I've got him by the balls here and wants to be able to throw rocks at me for this "unpaid debt" that they referenced. I owe them $59,310. I'm not disputing that. Get them to invoice me, and I'll screenshot a picture of the payment min's later.

Do I need to detail that any further b/c it seems pretty cut and dry to me? I can't pay what he marked paid b/c ebay won't let me. I'm not going to wire them when they're bashing me due to a "very large unpaid debt" even though he and I have worked off of wires for over 5 years. This particular case is a little different; wouldnt you agree? Again, I've asked for an invoice on multiple occasions and he refuses to send it to me. The last time I asked (2/8/17) was actually 2 min's after he said "you need to worry about what you owe us and not.....". In that screenshot, I asked again for an invoice and have yet to get one. I would absolutely love for Brent/Betsy to provide "proof" of something that can dispute ANY of what I've said or am saying. Again, I'm not going to put myself in a legal jam by saying things that aren't true about someone or a company. However, when I have the proof, and when you lie to me and piss me off bad enough, I will go to the ends of the earth to unearth the last thing on the planet that he wants you guys to see.

Again, if you're going to question me on something I've already stated, please at least make sure you've read the entire post and not simply skimmed through it.

I'm beginning to think that you and David are on the same team here and no matter what one says, you're going to try and find a way to spin it in another direction, or intentionally manipulate or overlook SHOWN FACTS.

If the latter is the case, STFU and quit responding to my posts.

Yes i understand why you want to pay by ebay, its actually shady to do it through paypal. Perhaps when he blocked you he is unable to go through ebay. What cards were purchased, and what has become of them?

I am not on either ones side. You did state you would be sending more texts from before and after the texts you provided which havent been showed yet.

Your tact and bedside manner is pretty poor but no one should be ripped off. In any event i think you explained things better on that post, which was not explained before and my post was fair to ask for a better response.

[GasHouseGang]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

1) Brent marked the cards paid before my paying for them; I have not received the cards. If he cancelled the purchase due to a non-payment, why was I not blocked for being a non-paying bidder? Also, why did I wire him 250K the month prior for another agreement? All of this is simple, elementary logic.

You keep saying you have more to tell us about even bigger transactions. Is it related to the $250K you claim to have sent to Brent for "another agreement" the month before. That terminology certainly is a weird way to describe a baseball card transaction. Do you want to enlighten us?

David Maupin

[PhillipAbbott79]

Originally Posted by Whodunit

Im working on exporting the rest of the conversation, but what is dated the 8th was essentially the last time i texted him.......asking for the 60k inv (of which i still have not received).....trigger....betsy.

Please see my post about how to try and export the entire conversation located here, post 482:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...53#post1631953

[Scocs]

Leon, What's the longest post in Net54 history? What's the Guiness World Record??

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Leon, What's the longest post in Net54 history? What's the Guiness World Record??

Unreachable.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=145243

[edjs]

Originally Posted by Scocs

Leon, What's the longest post in Net54 history? What's the Guiness World Record??

I'm wondering what is the most posts in one day?