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"But, back to the shill bidding texts, here are more between Brent and me. " where is the 'more' and you said you would post more before and after the 2 screenshots your provided. you said you have years worth i believe as well.... |
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Here ya go. This is me finding out about the dr'd card.
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His 2 cents.....
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did you ask for the 25k you lost on the card, he may of paid you that. Though perhaps he credited you for the money he claims you owe him which was more than 25k
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My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
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Can you please export the ENTIRE conversation? I would be more than willing to help you do this. I sent you a private message. Simply reply to that with your email address.
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Brent, at this point, Id hope youre in contact ith your attorney.
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From that text you dont seem like you are agreeing to pay the 60k, when you said darlin you will get your 60k lmao...
but i do see you asking for an invoice as well on another text Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 02-16-2017 at 08:19 PM. |
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No, Peter, I think you're absolutely correct. So, that corroborates Betsy's last post, right? She said his bidding didn't bode well with the auction. But that's hardly ask8ng him to shill.
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You sent me an iphone conversation conversion. When i do it on an android, the file is too large for upload. I however will print, scan, etc. Brent, you might start setting up shop on how to defend youurself. Im not going to state or post pics of anything but facts. But, those facts are likely to lead to a deathly ill situation for you. |
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OK, this is starting to piece itself together. "JP" is John Perez, the one who consigned it Brent. They all know each other. My theory is that Cortney consigned the card to Goldin. Goldin puts it in his auction and Cortney has his friend John shill it up. Unfortunately, John ends up winning it. John then asks Cortney what he should do now. Cortney recommends that John consign it to Brent, who will then have Cortney shill it up. Half way through the auction this mess comes to light and Cortney realizes that Brent screwed him, so he’s going to stop doing Brent favors and stops bidding. I wish I knew who ended up winning it….it could make this come full circle.
Again, just a theory. I don’t have a dog in this fight, plus I’m just a $20 collector, so what the hell do I know, right Cortney? You’ve all made your own bed. Enjoy.
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Ok. There has to be an application to do that. I don't have an android but I can start looking.
The more of the conversation you can get out, the better. Does anyone have an android that knows how to do this? It may save me some time looking and figuring it out. |
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This makes the 4th time ive shown this David (vintagetoppsguy). What part of this confuses you?
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LOL, since you are new here I will offer some great advice. Completely ignore David and Jake and you will be much better off.
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He was then asked to bid again, as I read it, to take the top slot.
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Then why does Brent write to him twice that he assured he would be outbid? How does Brent know he will be outbid unless Brent knows how high other bidders are willing to go on the card? That makes no sense to me.
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Dude did you also just realize the earth was round?
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You can show me your BS texts all you want. The fact is you're saying 2 different things. You first said that you were bidding to win it back for your collection, then you say you were bidding because you were asked to shill. You're a proven liar.
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Someone just brought it to my attn that in a screenshot with brent, i referenced "JP" and made mention that it might be John Perez. Im not catching all these threads but have about 100 eyes watching them for me. The "JP" I was referencing in that shot is JP Cohen of Memory Lane. He is in no way involved, affiliated or associated with ANY of these dealings or comments. Neith Cohen or Perez have anything to do with this. Their hands are clean........Brent, however, washed his in muddy waters.
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Ignoring Ben works for many as well. So you might as well ignore all 3 of us. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 02-16-2017 at 08:31 PM. |
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Go away David. Troll other waters.
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I wonder what transpired right after the hammer price. Last edited by 1952boyntoncollector; 02-16-2017 at 08:37 PM. |
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I think it all fits, if I am understanding it. He initially bid to win, bidding in increments. He stopped short of taking the lead position. He then decided not to bid any more having learned of the card's history. PWCC then asked him to bid again to take the top slot, saying it looked bad that he had stopped short.
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Offense now meant. You are an idiot.
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You are the only one who does not seem to get it. Do you have a reading comprehension issue or something?
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No dumbass. I understand it quite well. Cortney initially said that he bid on the card for his own collection. Then he said he bid on it because he was asked to shill. Two conflicting statements.
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Out of curiosity, though, do you know John Perez?
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"I think it all fits, if I am understanding it. He initially bid to win, bidding in increments. He stopped short of taking the lead position. He then decided not to bid any more having learned of the card's history. PWCC then asked him to bid again to take the top slot, saying it looked bad that he had stopped short. " that would not conflict |
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Phillipabbot, how do you argue with that level of stupid from david? He cant comprehend bidding to win, finding out it was dr'd, stopping bidding for0 that reason and then being asked to top the bid and "i assure you that you will be outbid". I tried to fill him in on timestamps, but even that didnt help. My guess is he hit his head extremely hard on a truck moving in excess of 60mph.
Im working on exporting the rest of the conversation, but what is dated the 8th was essentially the last time i texted him.......asking for the 60k inv (of which i still have not received).....trigger....betsy. What is prior to the shots ive shown tonight go much deeper than the dimaggio. My guess is that not only will they be shown here, they will be subpoenaed in court as my attorneys have already done so for my phone (same # for 17 yrs). As for multiple ebay ids, i have 2 accts and my wife has one. I use all 3 accts in an effort to keep people from knowing what all im bidding on. Evay id letters are easy to follow, which is why many of us have multiple accts and change ids monthly.......it keeps the investigators in the hobby off our scent. It's hardly a new idea or frowned upon idea. Both of my accts are linked to one paypal acct and all you need is a new email to set up as many accts as you want. Again, this is not about losing 25-30k on a card; that's happened many times, it's about being lied to and fraud. If i didnt have my tracks covered 110%, with all ive thrown at brent today, id have kept my mouth shut for legal reasons. However, he's in for the fight of his life, he just hasnt been "served"......yet. That said, watch out brent. ;-) |
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Sorry, but excuse me for not trusting Cortney when his only character witness in this thread said, "Cortney, you have zero credibility as a human being." Re-read post 371 again. I haven't read of anyone coming forward to vouch for him. Then, I look at his bid retractions. Check out his eBay user ID. I don't have that many bid retraction in my 14 years on eBay, let alone in the last 6 months. Then he insults the board with his $20 collector comment. You can make your own judgements, I'll make mine. But quit being a prick! |
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Like, at what point do you realize you look like a complete and utter moron? Seriously. Please tell me. The board has a right to know when they will get a break from it. Last edited by PhillipAbbott79; 02-16-2017 at 09:16 PM. |
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IMO, this thread is very disappointing and disheartening to those of us who simply want to buy the cards we are interested in without paying too much or thinking we got shilled. That is true at any level of the purchase, Too bad. I personally think both parties suck and have zero respect for both.
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I'm talking about vouching for him on a personal level. And unless I've missed something, I haven't seen it proven that Brent's the one that had the card doctored.
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My guess is that if you were given proof you would still argue. You want to see things the way you want to see them which makes it very frustrating to try to discuss this with you.
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Just to clear this portion, IF you got an invoice for 60k, would you be paying it? (You keep saying you have not received it yet and some may think that is why you may not have paid)
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In any case it's irrelevant. Brent bought the card as an SGC 50 and submitted it to PSA after the work was done. He knew it was the same card. Who cares if he or someone else commissioned the work? Most likely the person he bought it for (according to Betsy) did the work himself, or farmed it out.
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I am having a hard time reading the dates on the first text messages but they look like 2/2/17 at 11:34 AM. If this is correct, these text were sent more than a day before this thread started on 2/3/17 at 4:33 PM. The text were one day and five hours before this became public knowledge. Even if the text date is 2/3/17, it is still five hours before this thread started. Cortney said he stopped bidding once he was made aware of this thread. When he stopped, Brent told him to keep bidding. It looks to me like in the text messages Brent/Besty were complaining about the way Cortney was bidding BEFORE this thread started. I believe Besty's explanation about the bid increments more than I believe Cortney's story about Brent telling him to shill the auction.
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He just says whatever is in direct argument at that point in time. Isn't that obvious by now?
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