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Thats a tough set to find information about. There are many variations too, to make that even more complicated.
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what do you think?
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Al Jurgela Looking for: 1910 Punch (Plank) 50 Hage's Dairy (Minoso) All Oscar Charleston Cards Rare Soccer cards Rare Boxing cards |
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Hi Al,
I was looking at the company and noticed that it is located in Uruguay. Maybe there is more info on these in some periodical from there rather than Argentina. I haven't seen much when researching them over the years. I have seen posters of Monte Cudine with discs but they do not have the same markings as the cut out discs, so I am not sure whether they are all from the same media. Also, the stamps on back make me think that they were issued from the company, but who knows? I will keep looking and let you know if I see anything. Bill
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Not sure if this will help your cause or not but I have bought several of these from a friend in Argentina. Monte Cudine is an alcoholic drink that started in the 30's and was distributed for decades in Argentina (I cant speak to Uruguay). From what i understand, these "pogs" were issued under the lids of the bottles in order to increase sales just kind of as a gimmick. Also, as Alan mentioned earlier (Hi Alan) I have never heard of these being distributed in poster form and cut out (These are made of fairly heavy cardboard and there are no punch marks to be found). Unfortunately, I can't expound much more than that but I do have an advertisement that was sent to me so once i locate it I will scan it in here.
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This should be helpful. I doubt that it will go all the way for SGC, but I will try and continue to do some research in both Argentina and Uruguay!
Al
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Al Jurgela Looking for: 1910 Punch (Plank) 50 Hage's Dairy (Minoso) All Oscar Charleston Cards Rare Soccer cards Rare Boxing cards |
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No problem Al and best of luck to you--tell SGC to get their best grader on it. And if it smells like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck then perhaps it may very well be one! And finally, if they cannot authenticate and validate then who would they recommend?
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Hi Guys: Fairly new to the site. Think that I posted a reply back in 2015.
In any event, I do collect football/soccer cards & stickers quite extensively. I have enjoyed looking at your postings and images. All this Monte Cudine information and talk is very interesting, and is certainly of interest to me. I have some DiStefano disc's myself, and to be honest, there is some reluctance on my part, to past on the information that I have obtained on the Monte Cudines. What I am about to tell you begs the asking of more questions and speculation into what the truth might be. When I first received my copy of "Dificiles Erandes De Antes ", the Argentina book about their cards/stickers, I didn't understand why the 1940's Monte Cudine disc's were not included in the book. So, I e-mailed the co-authors of the book, Rafael Bitran and Francisco Chiappini, asking why this was the case. Only the one gentleman, Raphael Bitran replied to my e-mail. I was advised by Mr. Bitran that they did not include the Monte Cudine disc's in their book because they were aware of laboratory analysis results of the cardboard of the Monte Cudine disc's that proved that the paperboard used was not earlier than the 1970's. Also, that the old images used for the players was taken from Monte Cudine advertisements in the magazine " El Grafico " during the 1940's and 1950's. He indicated to me, that he felt that there was no doubt in their mind, that these disc's were not made in the 1940's. Your head may be reeling after reading this, as mine was. I still have my DiStefano disc's and continue to enjoy them. I will never try to grade them, as they can not be authenticated or truly proven. I'm sure sellers will continue to refer to the disc's as 1944-1947. I would like to believe that this is true,but now, I just don't know. best regards, ray. |
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Very cool information, thanks Noel!
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