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Old 12-13-2015, 08:27 PM
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The album that these are glued onto was obviously made for this set with the blank spot for #87 Jose Cardenal. Is there a cover or a front page for the album?
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:30 PM
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Would you mind posting or sending me a scan of the Garvey close up? As close as you can get it w/o affecting the quality of the image? thanks.
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Old 12-14-2015, 07:26 AM
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The album that these are glued onto was obviously made for this set with the blank spot for #87 Jose Cardenal. Is there a cover or a front page for the album?
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Old 12-15-2015, 12:43 AM
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Default Nice find

The album itself looks legit, but the cards look like the counterfeits. The bright white borders look too bright white, and the pictures are too blurred to see if the font matches the authentic font.

If you look at these under a loupe, if the green backgrounds are all printed in half tone (tiny dots), they are fake. The authentic cards are printed with flat layers of yellow and blue to create the green. The real ones also do not have perfectly square edges to the green background. These appear to be all squared up on the album examples.

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Old 12-15-2015, 06:54 AM
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Default Josh - is it possible?

There has been some speculation in past discussion about the possibility of 2 different printings vs. counterfeiting. I saw also in the scans 2 distinct printing styles/fonts, etc. All pasted in the original album, including commons? I think at the very least it begs further inspection and question.

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Old 12-15-2015, 07:36 AM
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There has been some speculation in past discussion about the possibility of 2 different printings vs. counterfeiting. I saw also in the scans 2 distinct printing styles/fonts, etc. All pasted in the original album, including commons? I think at the very least it begs further inspection and question.

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There are two different fonts because all of the "En Accion" stickers have the smaller font. Other than that all of the regular player stickers have the standard bold font.

I have heard about the counterfeits but apparently those were done recently, within the past few years. This book has been sitting in filing cabinet with the original letter of provenance, since 1978.
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The album itself looks legit, but the cards look like the counterfeits. The bright white borders look too bright white as well as the font not matching the authentic font.
They look the same as this Ryan:

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A close up from the album:

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Does anybody know how or why they chose the picture to use?

Some of the stickers have the same photo as the regular 72 Topps cards.

Many however have completely different photos.
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I bought a couple of these back in the 1970s along with some Puerto Rican cards from Wirt Gammon. These look exactly like the ones I purchased, very little chance of them being counterfeit.

What is the story on the Cardenal? Scarce or never printed?
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Also, no one should assume if one of these is in a PSA holder, they're authentic. Most graded by PSA are the fakes. Most available on the market are also fakes.

The key is the printing and the alignment of the green borders. If it's half tone green, they are fakes. There's a post on CU about these and I made a chart showing the real and counterfeit fonts. Search for the thread.

The two different printers story was once somewhat believed but it is extremely likely false.

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Auction for the album is now live!! Happy bidding

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=40158
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Auction for the album is now live!! Happy bidding

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...e?itemid=40158
Digging up an oldie. Final price under $1,700. Someone got a great price. Anyone on here win the album?
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Digging up an oldie. Final price under $1,700. Someone got a great price. Anyone on here win the album?
Oh yes, our friend Toppsaholic. He got a fantastic deal. He cut up the whole album and soaked the cards and put them on eBay. Quite a few sold but he still has many of them left. I bought every Cub except one and I'm sure that paid for over half of his investment just on those alone, but they are so rare that I didn't really have any choice.
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Old 08-22-2020, 05:34 AM
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Oh yes, our friend Toppsaholic. He got a fantastic deal. He cut up the whole album and soaked the cards and put them on eBay. Quite a few sold but he still has many of them left. I bought every Cub except one and I'm sure that paid for over half of his investment just on those alone, but they are so rare that I didn't really have any choice.
Your stamps look great.
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