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Old 09-05-2015, 12:44 AM
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Mick, good choice with the T205 set. The cards are beautiful, and you should get a lot of enjoyment from them while you own them.

As others have alluded to, you need to exercise caution when buying. This Chance auction had all kinds of red flags--2 feedback, nothing sold within the last year, obviously no history of selling cards from the same era, and pictures that anybody could find on the internet. Not only that, but there are two different cards pictured. One in a PSA slab, and another in a top loader. A cursory inspection of the two pictures shows it's clearly not the same card. Look at the left inside border. Look at the wear patterns, and different blemishes.



This is an auction you should run away from as fast as you can. It's not surprising that the seller is getting confrontational now. They're scam artists.

Don't ever hesitate to ask questions before you bid/buy. Ask the seller to provide a picture of their business card, or their EBay user name alongside the card. If they are unwilling to do this, that's a red flag. As the consumer, you need to be proactive, because while this was "only" $350, there will be more expensive cards out there. You want to establish good buying habits. They will serve you well.

The BST here is an excellent resource. If you buy off site, and are unsure if the card(s) you are considering are legit, ask questions of the members here. We all try to police the hobby, and help each other out.

Good luck with your collection!

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Old 09-05-2015, 02:54 AM
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Old 09-05-2015, 11:08 AM
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Generally I would be reluctant to buy JUST for the hope of making $. Unless you get "lucky" with a low price (rare these days), you have substantially more transaction costs when selling through eBay or auction houses. Basically, if you buy a set for $10k today and you need to sell it tomorrow, you will need to get $11.5k just to break even on your fees.

If you are looking at a 10% return in a year, you need to identify something that will increase by 25% in a year. That is tough.

This said, if you want to look for the long term, I would go with something that is "relatively" undervalued. I could post again my thoughts on a "market cap" dynamic that I believe will balance in time, but we do not know when that time is. In general, my market cap philosophy goes as follows...

If you believe that Babe Ruth is the best player ever, the combined value of his cards should be worth more than anyone else. Of course this theory does not lack for holes (some of the more notable: availability of issue, entry price point can exclude certain would be purchasers - which is why companies have stock splits and Berkshire Hathaway has two classes of shares, beauty of the issue, etc.). But in general, if there were only 10 Ruth rookies and 10 Mantle rookies, you would expect the Ruth rookies to be "valued" more... right?

I have done some math on the # of graded cards of some key HOFers and my analysis generally leads me to the conclusion that certain players are over-valued and some are undervalued.

In general, players from the 50's (Mantle, Mays, Clemente, Aaron) tend to be over-valued from this perspective as do some "outliers" like Wagner and Plank (for obvious T206 reasons). Ruth is still cheap (at least the rookies) in my opinion as are a number of Negro Leaguers (I am very biased here, but the data supports it).

Sets are tougher to do this with. I would focus on ones that you can easily sell, if need be. The Cracker Jacks and T206 recommendations are "safe" from my opinion, but there are a number of cool options.

Best advice is get what you like as you may be "stuck" with it.

Best of luck.
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Old 09-05-2015, 12:53 PM
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I'm going to pick away at the T205. It's cool as hell, has a number of toughies to keep me interested, and of course, has my two guys : Cobb and Matty.
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Old 09-07-2015, 11:43 AM
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I'm going to pick away at the T205. It's cool as hell, has a number of toughies to keep me interested, and of course, has my two guys : Cobb and Matty.
It really does have all of the elements of a great collecting experience. Good luck and keep us updated!!
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