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In any case, the photos could've been taken in spring training, or in some town (Like Alexandria, VA) as the teams were working their way north to start the season, later developed, and then the sigs could've been obtained as I mentioned - sometime when Cleveland and the Giants were both in NY, hence the May inscription. I'm sure the Giants spring training facility is mentioned in The Glory of Their Times, maybe with regards to the stories about Charles "Victory" Faust joining the team down there. |
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The Heritage description for the other photos in the collection says:
"The majority of the photographs were snapped at Cleveland's 1911 spring training grounds of Alexandria, Louisiana.." |
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"Well, as you can well imagine, I was on that train four days later, going to marlin Texas...The Giants had bought a piece of property in marlin, Texas, a town of about 4,000 or 5,000 people, and had constructed a bal, park there for spring-training purposes...We trained there every spring I was with the Giants, which was until 1915..." Unfortunately for the theory, marlin is about 300 miles due west of Alexandria, LA. |
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well that doesnt seem too far in the grand scheme of things. Its certainly possible if they were training in the same state that they would have played and then the autographs retrieved later
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The Giants photos were taken in September.
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A photographer having this many photos of two teams, regardless of timing and/or locations, seems completely reasonable to me. The fact that PSA has reviewed the prints and determined they are the right age (I know I'm repeating myself, but this question has come up twice since I mentioned this fact, and it's documented in the original link that was posted, yet I bet it comes up at least once more) makes me think that we should be concentrating on the signatures themselves, assuming PSA got it right with the prints - they are pretty good at that (again, I repeat myself). With that in mind...
Mathewson stinks. There are plenty of others that can easily be confirmed if anyone has the time and inclination.
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I have no insight on the signatures, but I'd want to see the photos in person before I said they were from 1911.
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Yes, I mentioned that in Post #50 in this thread:
...In The Glory of Their Times, Fred Snodgrass says, after McGraw offered him a contract for the 1908 season: "Well, as you can well imagine, I was on that train four days later, going to marlin Texas...The Giants had bought a piece of property in Marlin, Texas, a town of about 4,000 or 5,000 people, and had constructed a bal, park there for spring-training purposes...We trained there every spring I was with the Giants, which was until 1915..." |
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The Giants photos were taken in late September or early October of that year...at least that is what the player selection tells me.
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