Ron and Khyber Oser leave Legendary for Huggins

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

May not bode well for the future of Legendary?

Understatement of the century. When Doug Allen isn't obstructing justice, ripping off his friends and double-crossing the FBI, he's not getting the consignments that Mastro/Legendary used to get. Somehow I think the hobby can live without an auction house specializing in Horrors of War cards.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Understatement of the century. When Doug Allen isn't obstructing justice, ripping off his friends and double-crossing the FBI, he's not getting the consignments that Mastro/Legendary used to get. Somehow I think the hobby can live without an auction house specializing in Horrors of War cards.

I had no idea they were still up and running...got dropped from the catalog list long ago...was surprised to see someone make a "Legendary pickups" thread. Who in their right mind would feel safe consigning to that outfit at this point..they have to be awful close to sentencing.

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

I had no idea they were still up and running...got dropped from the catalog list long ago...was surprised to see someone make a "Legendary pickups" thread. Who in their right mind would feel safe consigning to that outfit at this point..they have to be awful close to sentencing.

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

Bill and Doug stole plenty of money for themselves by shill bidding their own auctions and committing all sorts of other fraud; however, plenty of consignors conspired with them by shilling up their own lots, knowing they could get away with it with Doug and Bill at the helm of Mastro. So you ask for collectors to clean up the hobby when it is the collectors themselves who are part of the fraud as well.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Bill and Doug stole plenty of money for themselves by shill bidding their own auctions and committing all sorts of other fraud; however, plenty of consignors conspired with them by shilling up their own lots, knowing they could get away with it with Doug and Bill at the helm of Mastro. So you ask for collectors to clean up the hobby when it is the collectors themselves who are part of the fraud as well.

My guess is that MOST consignors shill their own auctions, regardless of the auction house. It would be great if, as collectors, we gave all of our support to the auction houses that show that they do their best to prevent consignor shilling, but all consignors have to do to get around that is find friends to bid on their items.

So you are left with policing the actual auction house. That's been done to Legendary in a substantial way, so I would think they are now one of the least likely to shill their own auctions.

[turtleguy64]

Jeff,no surprise here.Their veep Jeff Marren did the intro of their just completed auction catalogue.It sounded like his goodbye.Now the Osers gone,leaving a rudderless ship.We may have seen the last of Legendary.and to boot a now brewing controversy as they pulled their feature item-rookie Gretsky game uniform -out of the catalogue just as the final day of bidding was starting. It's over.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by turtleguy64

and to boot a now brewing controversy as they pulled their feature item-rookie Gretsky game uniform -out of the catalogue just as the final day of bidding was starting. It's over.

But the Gretzky jersey is still up on auction and ends in 27 days

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/197...LOT169421.aspx

[turtleguy64]

true,but as Legendary noted in pulling the jersey until Dec.,they are doing more research.a little late for that when it's your featured money getter in the auction.

[toppcat]

I'll miss their past auctions gallery.....

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

And who in their right mind would continue to be part of the problem instead of the solution by consigning or bidding in their auctions anyway? Time for collectors to clean up the hobby. If not us, then who?

I've been boycotting Legendary for a year and encourage everybody to just stop bidding. No bids = out of business.

jeff

The Legendary employees who were convicted are going to prison. The ones who weren't are trying to get an auction house back on its feet. I don't see how punishing the remaining employees serves any purpose.

[Fred]

Jeff,

You're right about bidders shilling their own lots. I knew someone that told me they were doing just that. I was dumbfounded when I heard that.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Fred

Jeff,

You're right about bidders shilling their own lots. I knew someone that told me they were doing just that. I was dumbfounded when I heard that.

Dumbfounded? I'm dumbfounded that you were dumbfounded.

I bet the auction house actually got mad at me when my lot ended with a shitty final bid;i.e-why didn't I have the sense to play the game properly?

[bobbyw8469]

I bet the auction house actually got mad at me when my lot ended with a shitty final bid;i.e-why didn't I have the sense to play the game properly?

Amen brother!! I have had so many of my consignments sell for rock bottom prices as well!

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Runscott

The Legendary employees who were convicted are going to prison. The ones who weren't are trying to get an auction house back on its feet. I don't see how punishing the remaining employees serves any purpose.

Ummm. Who owns Legendary?

jeff

[turtleguy64]

who owns Legendary ? doesn't matter.look for a dissolving of the company shortly.don't see them posting a schedule of events after this Nov. 23rd in Chicago.the name is besmirched like the Mastro name.you don't come back from that .

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by jefferyepayne

Ummm. Who owns Legendary?

jeff

Jeff - boycott whoever you please. No one's going to think any less, or more of you.

[1952boyntoncollector]

is there any reason to not feel safe sending a check to the Legendary Auction and not receiving an item won ?


they dont accept credit card or paypal

[jefferyepayne]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Jeff - boycott whoever you please. No one's going to think any less, or more of you.

My only point is that whomever owns Legendary benefits from its continuation. I don't think looking at the employees and helping them keep things going is the right focus as the profits go to the shareholders. My understand is Doug Allen and other former Mastro employees started the company and likely still own the majority. Helping Legendary continue on simply helps these people, who are now indicted, continue to profit from this mess.

I'm not looking for people to think more or less of anyone on this board, just to act. I get tired of all of the people on boards who are appalled at shill bidding, crooked auction houses, shady dealers, etc. but who when it comes right down to it won't put their money where their mouth is. To each their own but don't expect things to ever get better if you're not willing to be part of the solution.

jeff