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Well, I wish John: 1) all the luck in the world with this investigation; and 2) that when he lies as badly as he did in the thread Wonka posted above that he's not under oath, subject to the penalties of perjury.
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Oh no I hope it wasn't those Ruth and Gehrig bats that he came out of the woodwork from his eBay listing.
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Again - I have not practiced law in this area.
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Best to my knowledge there was no search warrant when the FBI arrived to question the person.
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You don't need a warrant to talk to a person.
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I don't know a lot about the law, but I believe it is not the dollar amount that involves the FBI, rather the type of crime involved. When someone robbed the title and loan company by my house, all they got was petty cash. It was considered a bank robbery, and the FBI had to do the investigation over something like $50.
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The Big House?
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Hmmm...Day 2 since this story broke and still nothing on Haulsofshame.
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I guess they could still arrange sleep overs...
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Hmmm…Coaches Corner….memorabilia….connected to a person known and accused for bogus memorabilia….loans money to said person…part owner of a major auction house…auction house pays rent of said person…auction house under investigation/trial for fraud….FBI warrants at your place of work…ehhh I’m sure it’s all just a big misunderstanding. |
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There's only one reason someone consigns something to CC...they know it's a fake.
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Hopefully the hard hitting investigative journalism of The Hauls of Shame headed up by hobby white knight Peter Nash can add this to “Operation Bambino” and his other deep investigative reports. Last edited by wonkaticket; 01-30-2014 at 10:14 PM. |
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PS where did Travis Roste go? Anyone seen him around?
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Coaches Corner? This is hilarious!
Question: when Rogers bought the PSA5 MC Wagner, if I am not mistaken, Doug was handling his phone bid at the live auction. Was that one Legendary owner dealing with another? |
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Jay that is a good question.
What a mess. Is there no limit to the sleaze in collecting? At long last have they no decency?
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Famous for what? Yeah right give me a break! See link below: http://www.myccsa.com/Lot/235/babe-r...al-bb-bat.aspx |
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He is probably as good as the people who purport to be in that business.
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No arguments from me on that, just surprised to see...really had no idea that John Rogers was mixed up with CC, and even more surprised to find out he's a partner in Legendary auctions.
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Maybe he is the criminal mastermind behind everything. Mastro shmastro, it was Mr Rogers' neighborhood.
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I don't get it
How are these crooks still in business?
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Because everything they sell comes with an opinion. How is Morales still in business?
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Precisely, because it is an "opinion" it's very difficult to prosecute, I believe.
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If it's a fraudulent opinion it's still fraud. If I know an item is not genuine, it makes no difference if I say "it's genuine" or "in my opinion, it's genuine."
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Sure, all you have to do is prove it's a fraudulent opinion, no problem.
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And how is that any harder or easier than proving a statement of fact was made with knowledge it was false?
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You're the one saying how easy it is, not me. And I am telling you that I have been told by the people actually doing the work that it's not easy. If it was then CC would be in hot water....(and maybe they are, I don't know)
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I never said it was easy. I am saying that the language they use is not the reason it's hard, but rather that it's hard to prove a fraudulent state of mind.
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With something like an autograph opinion is there no leeway for incompetence? I could express an opinion about an autograph, and put it in writing. But aside from a handful of items I own, all cheap I'd be likely to be wrong. (Unless I'm sure it's bad because the item is too new to have been signed by that person) So If I claimed something was good and it became an issue a lack of knowledge or skill wouldn't help? I realize there's also a difference between someone Doing that as a business and someone selling random stuff. Just like claiming incompetence wouldn't help if I fixed something wrong and someone got hurt. Steve B |
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Plus, the odds of getting a jury that knows anything at all about autographs is not good...Mr Morales taking the stand with his "FBI background in forensics" would probably make the average jury member star struck.
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In a private suit if I were defending you, I would claim that because you were not holding yourself out as an expert, the plaintiff was not entitled to reasonably rely on your "opinion" or that it was not material.
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I don't know about that. I think if you read one of CC's LOA's you would find a lot of verbiage making them not liable for their opinion. I haven't read one but I would bet they are pretty good at denying culpability.....
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I think it's quite obvious that as long as they've been running their bogus operation and the FBI hasn't already shut them down that it's been deemed not an easy task.
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That's another issue. I haven't seen one either so can't comment.
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Given the amount of fraud that goes on in this world, it's obviously not an easy task to build a case that will hold up on a beyond a reasonable doubt standard. Some get busted but most do not. And prosecutorial resources are scarce relative to the number of fraudsters.
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Peter- here is something I don't understand, and maybe you can explain it: if I rendered an opinion on an autograph, and I got it wrong (I called a bogus autograph genuine) I agree that I could have simply given an erroneous opinion.
But if you gave me a thousand bogus autographs to authenticate, and I said all thousand were genuine, isn't there a tipping point where nobody would believe me? Wouldn't it at some point become obvious that I was committing fraud? Last edited by barrysloate; 01-31-2014 at 09:31 AM. |
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Barry, if nobody believed you then is it fraud? At that point your opinion wouldn't be material.
But where I think you meant to go is where I was going with this originally: that at some point there can be enough circumstantial evidence that a seller knows his opinion is false; and if a seller knows his opinion is false that's just as fraudulent as affirmatively stating the item is genuine.
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Or living on borrowed time.
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Taking off a few items I have sold theirs approximately 60 items of Nash’s collateral I have for sale. Peter Nash puts a value of approximately $125,000 on this stuff. This deal would not include the Ed Delahanty bat that would have to be a separate deal. Make me an offer! Last edited by Sunny; 01-31-2014 at 03:42 PM. |
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15 posts and every last one of them relates to Peter Nash.
Seems like he owns you.
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