Autograph News Live - criminals or just cowards?

[Michael Frost]

Originally Posted by Leon

Actually, you were speaking of Victor M., I believe.

I am sorry for the misunderstanding I was talking about Mr. Simon.
Victor M. is another story and may be even more interesting then Richard (sorry R.S. ) but I do happen to like both Victor & Keita.

[Rich Klein]

I tell you this board is now far better than the card side board. I would love to hear the tales of Victor M.

Rich

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I tell you this board is now far better than the card side board. I would love to hear the tales of Victor M.

Rich

Agreed. Also good to see this thread wrapping up with a few complements of others in the hobby - always refreshing and kills any chance of Michael's posts being compared to Travis'.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

I tell you this board is now far better than the card side board. I would love to hear the tales of Victor M.

Rich

Well that's certainly a matter of opinion I think.

[thetruthisoutthere]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/zimmerm...er-beware.html

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

http://www.suntimes.com/news/zimmerm...er-beware.html

The writer is a master of understatement:


In working on your problem, the Fixer found numerous tales in the memorabilia industry of forged signatures, questionable authentications and unpaid debts. This is an industry in need of watchdogs. There’s an old journalism saying that if your mother says she loves you, check it out. That goes double for anyone selling a Babe Ruth autograph.

[Big Dave]

Victor has been known for last 15 years as a pos crook. Any one that has been in this business for awhile knows that AMI was nothing but a ponzi scam. Victor and Kieta have lived very well on the money owed their consignors. They used money from new consigments sold to pay toward older consignors. Always wondered why people kept consigning to that place when it was well known over a decade ago how they operated. They should have been in jail a long time ago.

[Duluth Eskimo]

I always wondered the same thing. When I used to set up at shows, my booth at the Sun Times show was about 50 feet from the American Memorabilia booth. Every show I would see people wander in and make their way over to Victor's booth. I also used to see people I somewhat respected speaking to him. I would always think, what in the hell are they doing??? The guy is a crook. Why would people even speak to this guy? Then I would see some poor schlep showing him quality game worn (real no less) merchandise for consignment. It was mind boggling. Anyways, enough said.

One other thing. Am I the only one who think Mr Frost's post is a little patronizing? It seems like he thinks this is day one in the autograph community for some. I would consider this a pretty advanced crowd to come in to with this type of post. Maybe I am just blowing it out of proportion. Again, enough said.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Michael Frost

I am sorry for the misunderstanding I was talking about Mr. Simon.
Victor M. is another story and may be even more interesting then Richard (sorry R.S. ) but I do happen to like both Victor & Keita.

No apology necessary it was just a misunderstanding on your part Mike.
And Victor M is certainly another story as most here seem to already know.
Interesting is an unusual word to describe him. I don't think it is the word that I would use though.

[jeffects]

Originally Posted by Michael Frost

I am sorry for the misunderstanding I was talking about Mr. Simon.
Victor M. is another story and may be even more interesting then Richard (sorry R.S. ) but I do happen to like both Victor & Keita.

Oh Please Mike!!!!!!! You just lost a ton of credibility!

From Chris Williams earlier link:

The amount you got back isn’t quite what you expected, but it comes very close — and in view of the heaps of complaints about American Memorabilia, the Fixer thinks you’re actually pretty lucky. We learned that Susan Kieta, whose real name is Kieta Kieta (yes, you read that right), filed for bankruptcy May 31 in Nevada, declaring almost $3.2 million in liabilities on assets of only $493,537. The list of creditors runs about 50 pages.

[Big Dave]

NM

[jeffects]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Jeffects.....please place your name with your posts.

And who are you dave? (a moderator?) Leon has all my info, perhaps he will pass it along to you.

I don't mind giving my name, I just don't automatically acquiesce to goof-balls making demands.

Ask Leon, then you can even write to me if you want.

[jeffects]

Oh, Sorry. I meant to say "BIG" dave.

[jeffects]

I guess big dave chose to delete his post demanding to know who I am. Ha Ha, I didn't tell him, but I will tell you, I'm Jeff Clark. Perhaps you've heard of me... I didn't think so. Ha. Please don't tell big dave who I am...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jeffects

And who are you dave? (a moderator?) Leon has all my info, perhaps he will pass it along to you.

I don't mind giving my name, I just don't automatically acquiesce to goof-balls making demands.

Ask Leon, then you can even write to me if you want.

I am a goofball but you don't need to acquiesce. Per the the rules your name is under your id now. Same rules for everyone.

[jeffects]

Originally Posted by Leon

I am a goofball but you don't need to acquiesce. Per the the rules your name is under your id now. Same rules for everyone.

Hi Leon, That's fine, I haven't been on for a while and perhaps the rules have changed. I already divulged that secret information before I saw your post. Ha Ha, no problem.

[Big Dave]

Well Mr.Clark....

Bring as you have been on here since 09...figured you might like to actualy join all of us goofballs that place our names with our rants, but Leon corrected that for you.

Welcome aboard goofball.

[jeffects]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Well Mr.Clark....

Bring as you have been on here since 09...figured you might like to actualy join all of us goofballs that place our names with our rants, but Leon corrected that for you.

Welcome aboard goofball.

Which means I've been a member of this site longer than you big, but thank you for the warm welcome.

[jeffects]

Originally Posted by Leon

I am a goofball but you don't need to acquiesce. Per the the rules your name is under your id now. Same rules for everyone.

Hi Leon, from the profile page:

"As much of your real name as you are comfortable being included in the directory and with your posts. e.g. "Joe" "Joe J." or "Joe Jackson."

Feel free to call me Jeff Clark or perhaps Joe Jackson, either works well for me. Ha Ha, I love you guys!

[Leon]

Originally Posted by jeffects

Hi Leon, from the profile page:

"As much of your real name as you are comfortable being included in the directory and with your posts. e.g. "Joe" "Joe J." or "Joe Jackson."

Feel free to call me Jeff Clark or perhaps Joe Jackson, either works well for me. Ha Ha, I love you guys!

Not sure where the above quote is from but there is an addendum to that, and it supersedes anything else. It is under the Forum Rules icon....regards