Need Help: T206 Print Freak Question

[Jantz]

I can't really add anymore to the Hartsel discussion, but I would like to point out that the Sweeney is an interesting card for various reasons. The two most obvious reasons are that it has a color shift and the back is mis-cut. A third reason is that there is a Piedmont wet sheet transfer also. Look at the right border near his upper arm area. And finally the green ink in the left border from the card front next to it on the sheet.

If one of us took some time we may be able to identify the player next to Sweeney.

The Hartsel and Sweeney cards with the color shifts are interesting. Here is one more with an interesting color shift.


Jantz

[atx840]

Sweeney is part of this 350 series grouping. Should be easy enough to figure out.

1 4 Abstein, Bill Pittsburg
2 33 Bender, Chief (With Trees) Philadelphia Amer.
3 64 Burns, Bill Chicago Amer.
4 71 Campbell, Billy Cincinnati
5 100 Collins, Eddie Philadelphia Amer.
6 112 Cree, Birdie New York Amer.
7 129 Dineen, Bill St. Louis Amer.
8 151 Dubuc, Jean Cincinnati
9 153 Dunn, Jack Baltimore
10 154 Dunn, Joe Brooklyn
11 172 Fiene, Lou (Throwing) Chicago Amer.
12 202 Hannifan, Jack Jersey City
13 205 Hartsel, Topsy Philadelphia Amer.
14 310 McAleese, John St. Louis Amer.
15 313 McCormick, Moose New York Nat'l
16 354 Myers, Chief (Fielding) New York Nat'l
17 361 Oberlin, Frank Minneapolis
18 464 Stephens, Jim St. Louis Amer.
19 473 Sweeney, Bill Boston Nat'l
20 482 Thomas, Ira Philadelphia Amer.
21 515 Wilson, Owen Pittsburg
22 524 Zimmerman, Heinie Chicago Nat'l

[Gradedcardman]

Campbell, Cree or Wilson ?

[atx840]

Looks like Campbell or Cree.

[Gradedcardman]

Based on color shade I lean toward Campbell.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Great Thread!Dave. Donlin epdg slight color shift. BTW is color shift another way of saying the printing "registration"(sp?) is off, or "poor registration"?

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

Great Thread!Dave. Donlin epdg slight color shift. BTW is color shift another way of saying the printing "registration"(sp?) is off, or "poor registration"?

Yes.

There are other shifts, but only if the plates are made wrong. That's very uncommon.

Steve B

[mrvster]

Some extremely interesting theories.....thanks so much for the input everyone, especially steve....

this card still has me on the fence.....has anyone figured out the "b" and "g"??? pencil writing??? blue/green shift???

card is too extreme for normal factory production color shifts....still don't see too many FACTORY issued color shifts this dramatic....

i'm still super confused.....card has a "funny" trim....

[mrvster]

printer note??

"green" 00

"blue" 1


plate designation???steve??

i'm ready to send the card to you steve and have in broken out of the tomb to see if we can get anymore insight